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Hey guys,

Wanted opinions on a decen scope in the $200-$300 price range.

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Set and forget or target?

Best NEW inexpensive set and forget imho are the burris FFII and up.

Target scopes are not my forte but i hear great things about SWFA. I have a couple i use as set and forget and they have been flawless.

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I should have given more detail.

It will be for hunting only, mounted on a .270 winchester

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Burris FF II. No doubt in my mind

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Originally Posted by MidBore338
Burris FF II. No doubt in my mind


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And Cameraland has them in 3X9 for $159 with Ballistic Plex Reticle


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Another Burris FF II vote

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Agree on the FFII.

You should be able to find it at about $200 Cdn pesos

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Originally Posted by wink_man
Originally Posted by MidBore338
Burris FF II. No doubt in my mind


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And Cameraland has them in 3X9 for $159 with Ballistic Plex Reticle



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Also look at Leupold,Meopta and Vortex read reviews on all then decide.

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PERSONALY...I would avoid the Leupold and Vortex all together. Meopta is great...but its slim pickings in the OPs price range.

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I can't give much advice about the new market because I can't remember the the last time I bought a new scope.

I usually grab any Nikon Monarch UCC 3-9x40 I see in the $175 range. Same with any Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 I find in the $275-300 range. Both are out there if you have a little patience.


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The Philippine Nikons are great I agree. Only concern for me is that they are out of the gun biz so if something fails your up a creek .

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Burris FF 11 should get it done.
Mine showed up today from the mail person. Looks okay, haven't done anything with it yet.


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I have 2 of these and think they are a very good scope for the money.

https://cameralandny.com/shop/tags/...0135-de56-00163e90e196?variation=1694503

Historically scopes that have worn the Weaver name were a solid value. I haven't had my hands on one of these, but a few have and say they are great. At the upper end of your budget.

https://www.natchezss.com/exclusive-weaver-classic-series-rifle-scope-4-16x44mm-sfp-dual-x-30mm.html

Neither are Chinese.

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Fixed power SWFA if you like a big fat dialer, FFII for set and forget.

Both are quite proven.

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Originally Posted by Skatchewan
Hey guys,

Wanted opinions on a decen scope in the $200-$300 price range.

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The FF IIs are beyond decent; good practical hunting scopes at a great price. Same applies to the E1s. If I could find one with a conventional duplex or the older ballistic plex rather than the newer versions, I’d be willing to pay extra for it, but I have and use both.

There’s still a place for set and forget scopes. There’s a bunch who bemoan the dearth of light fixed powers, but you can set these to whatever power you crave and forget it’s a variable, and pay very little size and weight penalty.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
If I could find one with a conventional duplex or the older ballistic plex rather than the newer versions, I’d be willing to pay extra for it, but I have and use both.

You were led to water but sounds like you didn't drink. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-burris-fullfield-e1-3-9x40#Post15603967

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Skatchewan: Used Leupold 3.5x10 variable!
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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Pappy348
If I could find one with a conventional duplex or the older ballistic plex rather than the newer versions, I’d be willing to pay extra for it, but I have and use both.

You were led to water but sounds like you didn't drink. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-burris-fullfield-e1-3-9x40#Post15603967


Oh I saw that, but wasn’t in the market then, or now. Have too many idle scopes as it is, and before you say it, no room for more rifles to stick them to!


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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Pappy348
If I could find one with a conventional duplex or the older ballistic plex rather than the newer versions, I’d be willing to pay extra for it, but I have and use both.

You were led to water but sounds like you didn't drink. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-burris-fullfield-e1-3-9x40#Post15603967


Think Pappy is right (unless you can trust Optics Planet to actually HAVE the danged thing). Most of the E1’s out there have the “Ballistic Plex E1” (small etched) reticle, NOT the “Ballistic Plex” (spans entire view, non-etched, NON “E1”) reticle.

I’ve got one of the “E1” reticles. Too damn small...

Got Droptines, E1’s, and II’s with the “normal” ballistic plex, as well, and they are FINE for hunting.

Burris effed up with the “Ballistic Plex E1” reticle. Should’ve made it bigger, or stuck with normal “Ballistic Plex”. They also should’ve had the decency to come up with a different name, to avoid confusion. Stupid marketing move...

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Thanks for the input everyone, I appreciate it.

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I’m selling/sold my new Leupolds - the VX series. I’ve been buying FFII’s and am looking also at Elites and old Leupolds. Though the price on older Leupolds are often too high, in my opinion.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
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If I could find one with a conventional duplex or the older ballistic plex rather than the newer versions, I’d be willing to pay extra for it, but I have and use both.

You were led to water but sounds like you didn't drink. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-burris-fullfield-e1-3-9x40#Post15603967


Oh I saw that, but wasn’t in the market then, or now. Have too many idle scopes as it is, and before you say it, no room for more rifles to stick them to!

Gotcha. When you're in the market, I'll trade you a duplex one for your Barrett. Straight up. Hey, you said you'd pay extree for it. grin

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If you are in Canada, your options are limited. You likely have already checked CGN for used prices. I found them to be silly as much for a used Bushnell 3200 as they were new, very recently.


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Where are those scopes made?

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According to this article, Japan.

“Where are Bushnell Elite scopes made?

All of Bushnell’s current offering of Elite rifle scopes are made in Japan. The older Elite series, like the 3200, 3500, 4200, 4500, and 6500 scope models, were also manufactured in Japan as well.”

https://riflescope-review.com/where-are-bushnell-scopes-made-or-manufactured/

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Sightron SII. Big Sky. 3-9x or 3.5-10x.

They don't make them anymore. The Sightron SII Big Sky scope line was a big step up in glass quality over the Sightron SII, and had features from the higher level SIII scope line ( tracking design, and 7 layers of lens coating). They have a lifetime warranty, and were made in Japan. An outstanding scope, with a generous eye relief of 4" to boot, and resettable adjustment knobs.

The reason Sightron discontinued the SII Big Sky series was that it was too close in quality to their premium Sightron SIII series, and took away sales from the SIII.

Sightron SII Big Sky scopes are out there, but not often enough I guess the owners know "the secret." If you see one, grab it fast.

Another fine scope is a Burris Signature series (discontinued). A big step up optically over the very solid Fullfield series.


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Used Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40. Fantastic scope and often go for around $300. I have 3 of them and prefer it over my Leupold VX5 or vortex scopes.

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An older 3-9x40 4200 Elite would fit your needs well and then some. IF you can find one for sale.


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Originally Posted by buttstock
Sightron SII. Big Sky. 3-9x or 3.5-10x.

They don't make them anymore. The Sightron SII Big Sky scope line was a big step up in glass quality over the Sightron SII, and had features from the higher level SIII scope line ( tracking design, and 7 layers of lens coating). They have a lifetime warranty, and were made in Japan. An outstanding scope, with a generous eye relief of 4" to boot, and resettable adjustment knobs.

The reason Sightron discontinued the SII Big Sky series was that it was too close in quality to their premium Sightron SIII series, and took away sales from the SIII.

Sightron SII Big Sky scopes are out there, but not often enough I guess the owners know "the secret." If you see one, grab it fast.

Another fine scope is a Burris Signature series (discontinued). A big step up optically over the very solid Fullfield series.


I spoke with Sightron support a while back and they confirmed that the SII Big Sky is basically an SIII with a 1 inch tube. Excellent scopes if you can find one. I got a 3-12x42 off of ebay for $300. Its been a while.

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Originally Posted by wink_man
Originally Posted by MidBore338
Burris FF II. No doubt in my mind


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And Cameraland has them in 3X9 for $159 with Ballistic Plex Reticle

Fullfield E1 if you can get one with Std Duplex.


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I got one of these 3 weeks ago and have been comparing to other scopes.
https://www.swfa.com/leupold-3-9x40-vx-freedom-muzzleloader-scope-178478.html

It has fat reticle lines. I have problem seeing the reticle in my old age.
https://www.leupold.com/reticle/ultimateslam/

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