|
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 15,551
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 15,551 |
Damn. Prayers for her family
"I Birn Quhil I Se" MacLeod of Lewis
I Burn While I See
Hold Fast MacLeod of Harris
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,075
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,075 |
Any service member death is a tragedy! RIP Specialist. Condolences to her family and friends.
Mike
God, Family, and Country.
NRA Endowment Member
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,149 Likes: 35
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,149 Likes: 35 |
Cop basher Military basher What else? And has a bunch of people on ignore.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,499
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,499 |
Any service member death is a tragedy! RIP Specialist. Condolences to her family and friends.
Mike +1
There is no way to coexist no matter how many bumper stickers there are on Subaru bumpers!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,600
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,600 |
IIRC, her unit (319th FA Abn) was one of the artillery units tasked with deploying tactical nukes through the end of the cold war. Not sure where they would have deployed them. Maybe the Fulda Gap?
They had some interesting security protocols.
"Chances Will Be Taken"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,230
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,230 |
subterranean ruralite said something? Guess I would have to take HIM off of ignore to read it. R I P Specialist. But Be Well, RZ.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 6,167
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 6,167 |
A sad deal. Rest in Peace, Airborne! Training kills occasionally and any number of things can go wrong on a jump! True words. I spent 4 years in the 82nd. Losses were not common, but did happen a little too often. Still, more troops were killed driving drunk than parachuting every year. Stuff is gonna happen with young kids ( like I was) being out on their own for the first time. Exactly like in civilian life. I think it was in the early 90s out here that Camp Pendleton shut down motorcycle operations until all the young marines buying rice rockets got a bit of training and a motorcycle license.
Fight fire, save lives, laugh in the face of danger.
Stupid always finds a way.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 14,316
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 14,316 |
Not sure where they would have deployed them. Maybe the Fulda Gap? Remember 5 Jun '67 and 6 Oct '73? Phil
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,261 Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,261 Likes: 7 |
[ quote=simonkenton7]Static line jump from a helicopter. https://www.fayobserver.com/story/n...fort-bragg-airborne-accident/7319063002/[/quote] A sad deal. Rest in Peace, Airborne! Training kills occasionally and any number of things can go wrong on a jump! True words. I spent 4 years in the 82nd. Losses were not common, but did happen a little too often. Still, more troops were killed driving drunk than parachuting every year. Stuff is gonna happen with young kids ( like I was) being out on their own for the first time. Exactly like in civilian life. Horrible news.wonder what happened? We had one guy die during our training and some pretty bad injuries. I always hated riding and training in helicopters.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,380 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,380 Likes: 2 |
I was not Airborne when I was in the Army many years ago, but I have a good friend across the street who was a USMC Force Recon team leader in Vietnam. The Force Recon men have to make ten jumps to qualify for their Naval paratrooper wings.
We were discussing jumping once a couple of years ago and he told me that he had no problem jumping from a prop plane, staic line, but he hated jumping from a helicopter. He explained that the prop blast from a prop plane helps to open the canopy, but because there is no prop blast, other than downward, from a helicopter, the canopy can sometimes not open and there's no reserve chute to pull.
That's what he told me.
I wonder if something like that might have happened to the woman paratrooper??? She was jumping from a helicopter.
FWIW.
L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 46,092 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 46,092 Likes: 5 |
Cop basher Military basher What else? And has a bunch of people on ignore. No sh*t. I didn't realize military training was a stupid game. RIP, and condolences to her family.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,425
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,425 |
Saddens me to hear of the loss of the young Paratrooper. It's a reminder of the inherent danger of airborne operations and the sacrifice that our armed forces make each and every day for this country.
Spec. Jenks - Airborne All The Way
Women attending jump school and serving in Airborne units is nothing new, when I attended the Basic Airborne Course in November 1978 there were women going through it then , a lot of them were "riggers" who were headed to the 82nd ABN .
StarchedCover
Semper Fi
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,217 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,217 Likes: 2 |
Sad news indeed, Rest In Peace spc Abigail Jenks.... I don’t know the specifics of her accident, but my sons fiancé’ was injured doing the same training exercise as I understand it. Something gave way that wasn’t supposed to and she free fell backwards about 15 or so feet. Ended her career and she’s had about 15 surgeries so far.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 3,742
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 3,742 |
RIP
Maybe God needed another good soldier.
Osky
A woman's heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth and I can find no sign on it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,533
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,533 |
I was not Airborne when I was in the Army many years ago, but I have a good friend across the street who was a USMC Force Recon team leader in Vietnam. The Force Recon men have to make ten jumps to qualify for their Naval paratrooper wings.
We were discussing jumping once a couple of years ago and he told me that he had no problem jumping from a prop plane, staic line, but he hated jumping from a helicopter. He explained that the prop blast from a prop plane helps to open the canopy, but because there is no prop blast, other than downward, from a helicopter, the canopy can sometimes not open and there's no reserve chute to pull.
That's what he told me.
I wonder if something like that might have happened to the woman paratrooper??? She was jumping from a helicopter.
FWIW.
L.W. It DOES take a little longer for the chute to open, not much, but it's noticeable. I only made four or five jumps from a helicopter, and that was 40 years ago, so the memories fade a bit. 3 from a Huey and 1 from a Chinook. Still fun, especially the Chinook (walk right off the ramp), but I concur with your Marine buddy, Hueys aren't really good jump aircraft.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,461
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,461 |
I was not Airborne when I was in the Army many years ago, but I have a good friend across the street who was a USMC Force Recon team leader in Vietnam. The Force Recon men have to make ten jumps to qualify for their Naval paratrooper wings.
We were discussing jumping once a couple of years ago and he told me that he had no problem jumping from a prop plane, staic line, but he hated jumping from a helicopter. He explained that the prop blast from a prop plane helps to open the canopy, but because there is no prop blast, other than downward, from a helicopter, the canopy can sometimes not open and there's no reserve chute to pull.
That's what he told me.
I wonder if something like that might have happened to the woman paratrooper??? She was jumping from a helicopter.
FWIW.
L.W. Personally I would rather jump out of a helicopter since there is less opening shock. As far as not jumping with a reserve we always had one. I thought everybody used them unless it was an actual combat drop at way lower that training jump altitude. We never had any fatalities while I was jumping. There was a whole bunch of injuries though. A friend of mine came pretty dang close to getting his neck broke when the static line got hung up on his neck and/or helmet. My dad saw a guy get killed that way when he was a smokejumper. I managed to fracture 2 vertebrae on a jump ( that hurt a little bit) and another guy in the same stick busted his pelvis or thigh. I always thought the wind was too fast with way too many gusts to be jumping that day personally, but I didn't make those decisions.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,425
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,425 |
Leanwolf,
You make your 5 jumps to get your "lead" wings in the Basic Airborne Course and you have to make 5 additional jumps to get your "gold" wings.
Having that "gold" wing pinned on is an experience you don't forget. Good times.
StarchedCover
Semper Fi
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,956
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,956 |
She is from my town. I don't know the family though. I haven't seen any home coming news yet.
Fall seven times, stand up eight.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,909 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,909 Likes: 2 |
Damn. Prayers for her family +1 News no parent wants to get.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,644
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,644 |
A sad deal. Rest in Peace, Airborne! Training kills occasionally and any number of things can go wrong on a jump! True words. I spent 4 years in the 82nd. Losses were not common, but did happen a little too often. Still, more troops were killed driving drunk than parachuting every year. Stuff is gonna happen with young kids ( like I was) being out on their own for the first time. Exactly like in civilian life. Horrible news.wonder what happened? We had one guy die during our training and some pretty bad injuries. I always hated riding and training in helicopters. [/quote] I actually loved the jumps out of Hueys and Chinooks, (Ch46's for amphibious training) C-130's and 141's not so much cuz it usually meant beaucoup dudes in the sky , no moon and wind!
Last edited by troublesome82; 04/21/21.
|
|
|
|
|
591 members (222Sako, 219DW, 219 Wasp, 24HourCampFireGuy50, 007FJ, 12344mag, 63 invisible),
2,258
guests, and
1,274
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,276
Posts18,486,709
Members73,967
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
