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I've had great experiences with several of Ramshot Powders, good stuff.
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Anyone have a good load for Big Game in a 308 with 165/168g bullets? Looks good in the manuals, just haven't got around to trying it yet.
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Just work up to the listed Ramshot maximums--but like Charlie, I've generally found that magnum primers improve accuracy with Big Game a LOT, even in relatively small cartridges like the .308.
The first cartridge I used it in, over 20 years ago, was the .220 Swift. With standard primers 3-shot groups ran around 1-1/2" at 100 yards. With Federal 215s they shrank to 1/2".
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So glad I have a fresh 8-pounder of Big Game right now ....
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dave7mm Seems Big Game does burn pretty clean. And at night doesn't seem to have as much muzzle flash as other powders do. Charlie Here in Louisiana, the locals would say you don't have bright enough light, not burning enough candle power... DF
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I've had good luck with all Ramshot powders. Here is their online load data https://www.ramshot.com/load-data/
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Just work up to the listed Ramshot maximums--but like Charlie, I've generally found that magnum primers improve accuracy with Big Game a LOT, even in relatively small cartridges like the .308.
The first cartridge I used it in, over 20 years ago, was the .220 Swift. With standard primers 3-shot groups ran around 1-1/2" at 100 yards. With Federal 215s they shrank to 1/2". Did you find that to be the case with your published Big game 9.3x62 loads ?
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If I recall correctly, the primer in the Big Game load with 286-grain bullets is the CCI 200, which apparently works very well, even at zero Fahrenheit. I would suspect the reason is the charge is pretty compressed. (Well, that and the fact that my CZ 550 shoots just about anything accurately.)
But if a Big Game load doesn't shoot well with standard primers, I try a magnum primer. So far it's shrunk groups every time.
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Charlie brother we need to have a talk. I am really glad you are here, and I thoroughly enjoy your content. Can you explain how in the hell someone who lists their location as Texas and Kentucky answers that question in centimeters? Dear God, my spell checker is rejecting that word.
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Charlie brother we need to have a talk. I am really glad you are here, and I thoroughly enjoy your content. Can you explain how in the hell someone who lists their location as Texas and Kentucky answers that question in centimeters? Dear God, my spell checker is rejecting that word. You just push the shift key when you're typing in the numbers and it converts them for you.
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Yeah, I had to do the math too - a red hair under 26 good ol' American inches...;o) I think Mr. Sisk might have been messing with us.
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jmd205,
Just looked at my handloading notes, and the primer in the 286-grain 93x62 Big Game load is indeed the CCI 200--which is a relief, thanks to confirming my memory. That load averages well under an inch in my CZ 550 for 3-shot groups at 100, but as noted above, have had magnum primers make a major difference in accuracy in many other cartridges with Big Game.
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Pharmseller With this particular load, I was running 47 grains. Charlie Holy moly brother, that’s hot! Max charge for 150 eldx is 46.2 and you’re using the 162 at 47 grains? No pressure signs?
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Pharmseller Max charge is 51 grains according to Ramshot. Charlie
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Paulbarnard It has a metric name so it needs a metric barrel length !!! Charlie
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Some of ya'll mentioned Big Game in 9.3x62. This powder works really well in this case. Works good in 9.3 BS. I have used it with lighter bullets in 338 Win mag. For the most part, it works anywhere 4350 does. Charlie
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Pharmseller With this particular load, I was running 47 grains. Charlie Just making sure, we’re talking about 162 Eldx in a 7mm-08 with Big Game powder, right? I looked at Ramshot’s load data and didn’t see 51 grains listed for either 150 or 160 grain bullets. P
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So glad I have a fresh 8-pounder of Big Game right now .... Only one? What’s wrong with you?
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So glad I have a fresh 8-pounder of Big Game right now .... Only one? What’s wrong with you? I only have one 8 pounder, too. But, I just use it in my 7-08, '06 and may try it in my .375 H&H and 338-06. I don't sprinkle it on my corn flakes.... It lasts longer that way... DF
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So glad I have a fresh 8-pounder of Big Game right now .... Only one? What’s wrong with you? I only have one 8 pounder, too. But, I just use it in my 7-08, '06 and may try it in my .375 H&H and 338-06. I don't sprinkle it on my corn flakes.... It lasts longer that way... DF Nothing gets the old motor running quite like a teaspoon of Big Game in your oatmeal.
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