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Originally Posted by shaman
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@0900, I had a gob come out of Hootin' Holler and started closing on me. He got within 30 yards and I got my gun up. I was waiting for him to clear some bushes. A few minutes later, he appeared 90 deg off to my right. He circled around below me, and popped up just above the grass. He caught me moving my barrel around and left.

It turns out everyone else had seen him as well. He's started the morning about a 1/4 mile away on the east side of the property. He came around Angus' blind and then took off towards Moose's blind 500 yards away. Moose saw him come up out of the hollow and then veer off towards me.

No aches or pains. I'm feeling blessed.


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I thought you self-proclaimed Shaman types had all the answers. Between this and the 'what do I do about my well' thread, I believe a handle change is in order...


Don’t forget the “why did my lawn mower tire blow up after I filled it with too much air.”


The mystery remains.....


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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Taking all at face value, I remembered this case for its possible apparent similarity:

A young women came to the surgeon via her family doc complaining of vague abdominal pain for some time (I don’t remember the length of time). X-rays were read as negative. I can’t recall if an MRI was done but all physical exams and a barium enema, etc were also read as negative.

Finally, at a loss as to the problem the surgeon decided to do a diagnostic laparoscopy — putting small instruments into her abdomen via a couple small wounds after the abdomen is inflated to give room to work, one a camera and another to manipulate soft tissues allowing visualization. Yes, this is a surgical procedure.

After “running” the small bowel, a small area of inflammation was noted on the distal bowel. A close-up view showed a very small bone had penetrated the bowel incompletely, sticking out about a centimeter and a half. It was removed. Had nothing been done what would have happened? Hard to say, from getting worse and abscess to the small bone being walled off by an inflammatory process. Neither are a comforting resolution.

Post-op, the patient remembered eating fresh fish with rib bones in the meat a week or so earlier.

Steel bristles I know are stiff, non-bending and sharp and will doubtfully make all the small bowel turns easily. If you believe you did swallow steel bristles, you are a step ahead of this lady. I would make preparations to get in to a doc to explain the situation and get direction. Steel bristles should show up on x-rays or other tests and confirm their position to be followed up and at least be watched. It could prevent an emergent situation. If nothing shows, you may not have swallowed anything and be relieved.


George, all due respect and all, but people swallow all kinds of scheit all the time. It almost always passes through without a problem. I probably see a dozen such cases annually. They come in because they're sure they swallowed something (or their kid did) but almost never with symptoms other than a scratched throat, if that.

I get xrays done if they come into the ER, which has some value if it's a metallic FB. Otherwise you won't see anything. I invariably send 'em home and tell 'em to follow up with a surgeon if they develop symptoms like abdominal pain or rectal bleeding over the next few days. They almost never do. So they get to pay the hospital a whopping $1000+ ER charge for advice to come back or see a surgeon if they develop those symptoms.


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Yeah, right... ER docs get paid pennies on the dollar billed. Corporations run medicine to enrich themselves, not the docs that have no alternative if they want to work.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
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Where is Slumlord when ya need him, gawd knows he'd have a elixir
just for this ailment!


Slumlord has excellent insurance and would be at the Endo’s office/ER in 45 mins.

Had a couple of endo scopes down the esophagus before. No big deal and you get to have fentanyl. I love that stuff.

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Here I figured you'd chime in with :

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Is it too late to offer advice? I think you need to purge your system. Castor oil would work. Then get a Vietnamese enema. Most nail shops can do it. Just go in and ask. They’ll know what you’re talking about. Then about three days after all that, schit on a plate, cover it in foil, and take it down to the closest ER for examination. If they don’t find anything, you didn’t do it right and you should start the entire process over.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Is it too late to offer advice? I think you need to purge your system. Castor oil would work. Then get a Vietnamese enema. Most nail shops can do it. Just go in and ask. They’ll know what you’re talking about. Then about three days after all that, schit on a plate, cover it in foil, and take it down to the closest ER for examination. If they don’t find anything, you didn’t do it right and you should start the entire process over.

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Well I bet your stomach acids will dissolve it. A long ago dog of mine grabbed a baited hook on my fishing rod and swallowed it. I had no choice bit to cut the line. next afternoon I was watching him take a [bleep] and out comes the fishing line and the only part of the hook still there was what was covered by the knot. No matter what good luck to you.


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Originally Posted by rickt300
Well I bet your stomach acids will dissolve it. A long ago dog of mine grabbed a baited hook on my fishing rod and swallowed it. I had no choice bit to cut the line. next afternoon I was watching him take a [bleep] and out comes the fishing line and the only part of the hook still there was what was covered by the knot. No matter what good luck to you.


Makes sense that the barb and point would be the first parts to dissolve removing the chance of a poke through..

The problem with a wire is it is too thin to round off, although shortening and weakening may be the key...
Also the pancreas or gall bladder is meant to grab that stuff...


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Originally Posted by DocRocket
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Taking all at face value, I remembered this case for its possible apparent similarity:

A young women came to the surgeon via her family doc complaining of vague abdominal pain for some time (I don’t remember the length of time). X-rays were read as negative. I can’t recall if an MRI was done but all physical exams and a barium enema, etc were also read as negative.

Finally, at a loss as to the problem the surgeon decided to do a diagnostic laparoscopy — putting small instruments into her abdomen via a couple small wounds after the abdomen is inflated to give room to work, one a camera and another to manipulate soft tissues allowing visualization. Yes, this is a surgical procedure.

After “running” the small bowel, a small area of inflammation was noted on the distal bowel. A close-up view showed a very small bone had penetrated the bowel incompletely, sticking out about a centimeter and a half. It was removed. Had nothing been done what would have happened? Hard to say, from getting worse and abscess to the small bone being walled off by an inflammatory process. Neither are a comforting resolution.

Post-op, the patient remembered eating fresh fish with rib bones in the meat a week or so earlier.

Steel bristles I know are stiff, non-bending and sharp and will doubtfully make all the small bowel turns easily. If you believe you did swallow steel bristles, you are a step ahead of this lady. I would make preparations to get in to a doc to explain the situation and get direction. Steel bristles should show up on x-rays or other tests and confirm their position to be followed up and at least be watched. It could prevent an emergent situation. If nothing shows, you may not have swallowed anything and be relieved.


George, all due respect and all, but people swallow all kinds of scheit all the time. It almost always passes through without a problem. I probably see a dozen such cases annually. They come in because they're sure they swallowed something (or their kid did) but almost never with symptoms other than a scratched throat, if that.

I get xrays done if they come into the ER, which has some value if it's a metallic FB. Otherwise you won't see anything. I invariably send 'em home and tell 'em to follow up with a surgeon if they develop symptoms like abdominal pain or rectal bleeding over the next few days. They almost never do. So they get to pay the hospital a whopping $1000+ ER charge for advice to come back or see a surgeon if they develop those symptoms.



Couple years ago I had an ER surgeon in Yuma misdiagnose me for something similar. Still dealing with the issue, when I told the surgeons up here in first world medicine, to a man they laughed and were very incredulous. One asked where they went to school, and i told him very likely India. He shut up after that and wouldn't say another word except to keep on point going forward. What she told me happened, they said is an almost impossibility. Between that and several other instances over the years, I try to trust my docs, but I put no one on a pedestal.


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Originally Posted by rickt300
Well I bet your stomach acids will dissolve it. A long ago dog of mine grabbed a baited hook on my fishing rod and swallowed it. I had no choice bit to cut the line. next afternoon I was watching him take a [bleep] and out comes the fishing line and the only part of the hook still there was what was covered by the knot. No matter what good luck to you.

That dog sounds like a keeper.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by DocRocket
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Taking all at face value, I remembered this case for its possible apparent similarity:

A young women came to the surgeon via her family doc complaining of vague abdominal pain for some time (I don’t remember the length of time). X-rays were read as negative. I can’t recall if an MRI was done but all physical exams and a barium enema, etc were also read as negative.

Finally, at a loss as to the problem the surgeon decided to do a diagnostic laparoscopy — putting small instruments into her abdomen via a couple small wounds after the abdomen is inflated to give room to work, one a camera and another to manipulate soft tissues allowing visualization. Yes, this is a surgical procedure.

After “running” the small bowel, a small area of inflammation was noted on the distal bowel. A close-up view showed a very small bone had penetrated the bowel incompletely, sticking out about a centimeter and a half. It was removed. Had nothing been done what would have happened? Hard to say, from getting worse and abscess to the small bone being walled off by an inflammatory process. Neither are a comforting resolution.

Post-op, the patient remembered eating fresh fish with rib bones in the meat a week or so earlier.

Steel bristles I know are stiff, non-bending and sharp and will doubtfully make all the small bowel turns easily. If you believe you did swallow steel bristles, you are a step ahead of this lady. I would make preparations to get in to a doc to explain the situation and get direction. Steel bristles should show up on x-rays or other tests and confirm their position to be followed up and at least be watched. It could prevent an emergent situation. If nothing shows, you may not have swallowed anything and be relieved.


George, all due respect and all, but people swallow all kinds of scheit all the time. It almost always passes through without a problem. I probably see a dozen such cases annually. They come in because they're sure they swallowed something (or their kid did) but almost never with symptoms other than a scratched throat, if that.

I get xrays done if they come into the ER, which has some value if it's a metallic FB. Otherwise you won't see anything. I invariably send 'em home and tell 'em to follow up with a surgeon if they develop symptoms like abdominal pain or rectal bleeding over the next few days. They almost never do. So they get to pay the hospital a whopping $1000+ ER charge for advice to come back or see a surgeon if they develop those symptoms.



Couple years ago I had an ER surgeon in Yuma misdiagnose me for something similar. Still dealing with the issue, when I told the surgeons up here in first world medicine, to a man they laughed and were very incredulous. One asked where they went to school, and i told him very likely India. He shut up after that and wouldn't say another word except to keep on point going forward. What she told me happened, they said is an almost impossibility. Between that and several other instances over the years, I try to trust my docs, but I put no one on a pedestal.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Is it too late to offer advice? I think you need to purge your system. Castor oil would work. Then get a Vietnamese enema. Most nail shops can do it. Just go in and ask. They’ll know what you’re talking about. Then about three days after all that, schit on a plate, cover it in foil, and take it down to the closest ER for examination. If they don’t find anything, you didn’t do it right and you should start the entire process over.

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He knows you are a schidt head


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Originally Posted by BobBrown


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A nice, big healthy poo with no blood or pus in it is a beautiful experience that should not be taken for granted.


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Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by rickt300
Well I bet your stomach acids will dissolve it. A long ago dog of mine grabbed a baited hook on my fishing rod and swallowed it. I had no choice bit to cut the line. next afternoon I was watching him take a [bleep] and out comes the fishing line and the only part of the hook still there was what was covered by the knot. No matter what good luck to you.

That dog sounds like a keeper.



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One of my professors pulled a fast one on the sophomore class.

We had research cattle at the farm with plastic windows on their stomachs for sample analysis.
He would reach in a little with the extraction device to show us the procedure. Then he said, " oh NO, I LOST MY WEDDING BAND!
Then he asked for a volunteer to retrieve it. Up shoots a hand and the guy rolls up his sleeve and fishes around for a while.
Then, out of the blue, the Doc finds it. " It was in my pocket! "

Nobody wanted to sit near the guy on the bus trip back.

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