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I use a little Big Game every now and then. I think you've sold more than you could ever use.... Your groups, stats and dead critters are nice sales props... DF
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I have found Big Game to work well in .30-06, as have several other buds. My go-to load for .257 Roberts is Hunter. I saw some new label powder of both flavors and scooped up a couple extra pounds each. I’m not buying anything else until price and availability returns to near normal, which is to say maybe never. I have enough to stock my estate sale. Happy Trails
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Have found Hunter to work very well with 100-grain bullets in the .257 Roberts, but Magnum works better with 115-120 grain bullets. In fact I was once told by Doug Phair, the owner of Western Powders until it was recently sold to Hodgdon, that his standard load for 120s in the .257 was filling a case to the mouth with Magnum, then seating a 120 Partition seated on top.
Tried it, and it shot very well. In fact, Eileen used it for a while in her NULA .257. Muzzle velocity was around 2950 fps.
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I like it!
As you say, if there is low SD, best as I can recall, I have always been able to find accuracy somewhere.
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Jordan 10 shot strings. Charlie That’s impressive. I agree. I had really good accuracy with Big Game in the 7mm-08 with 162gr bullets. ES under 10 for one rifle.
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I use a little Big Game every now and then. I think you've sold more than you could ever use.... Your groups, stats and dead critters are nice sales props... DF I’m down to my last 20 lbs.
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Jordan 10 shot strings. Charlie That’s impressive. I agree. I had really good accuracy with Big Game in the 7mm-08 with 162gr bullets. ES under 10 for one rifle. I know we’ve talked about this but I’ve forgotten. Could you post your recipe, including muzzle velocity? I have a bunch of 162 eldx I use in my 7mm Rem Mag and I keep wondering about them in my 7mm-08s. P
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I use a little Big Game every now and then. I think you've sold more than you could ever use.... Your groups, stats and dead critters are nice sales props... DF I’m down to my last 20 lbs. Damn, you're getting low!
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I’m down to my last 20 lbs. Damn, you're getting low!
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... I have enough to stock my estate sale. Happy Trails Brilliantly written! That's my goal too, LOL. From the "I'd rather be lucky than good" department: I had just that thought back in late 2019/early 2020. Being newly retired, I figured "why not just lay in a supply of enough of all the stuff I load with (and some I might want to later), sufficient to last the rest of my loading days." I dropped some coin in the process, but everything I wanted was available and as an FFL I was mostly paying wholesale, so all was good. My wife is a bit of a "prepper" so she was very supportive of the idea, which always helps. Then the current insanity hit and I ended up looking a lot smarter than I really am... Cheers, Rex
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Mr. Sisk Have you noticed how clean burning big game is? I find it to be exceptionally clean burning in the 6.5... . 17:pound IBS 1000 yard bench gun. 300 SAUM. Berger 200g20x . 60.3 Hunter. CCI-BR2. I have shot this or pretty darn close to this for five barrels now. It works very well. Dave
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Have found Hunter to work very well with 100-grain bullets in the .257 Roberts, but Magnum works better with 115-120 grain bullets. In fact I was once told by Doug Phair, the owner of Western Powders until it was recently sold to Hodgdon, that his standard load for 120s in the .257 was filling a case to the mouth with Magnum, then seating a 120 Partition seated on top.
Tried it, and it shot very well. In fact, Eileen used it for a while in her NULA .257. Muzzle velocity was around 2950 fps. Thanks John, I will give Magnum a try with those stubby 115 Partitions from SPS. Just to clarify, did Doug mean filling the case flush to the mouth, or to where the neck meets the shoulder? Thanks again, Rex
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Good thing I just bought 4 pounds of the stuff. It works great in the 7mm08, but I'm probably going to try it in other things as well...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Thanks, John. I found an accuracy load with Hunter and 100 gr TTSX for my old Ruger .257 Roberts that clocks just over the magic 3k. I’d use that combo on everything but big elk. I’ve got 2 other “lucky “ rifles for that task. I’m going to try Hunter in my 7x57 with the 145 LRX along with RL16, which shows some promise. Best, Steve
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I picked up another CZ 550 Varmint in a 308 Win with a 26" barrel recently.I made up a few test loads for it before heading out to the range,I made up a couple with Big Game just to see what kind of velocity I could get with it.I usually use Winchester brass that has a tad bit more case capacity,but I had some new Nosler cases prepped so I used them.I loaded 51.0grs of Big Game,WLRM Primer,with a 168gr Nosler Ballistic tip.This load is a compressed in the Nosler case and I was kind of surprised I was able to fully seat my bullet.I got 2808fps with my magneto speed,which was more than I expected to get.It is right about the same as I get with my other 308 Win loads 44.5grs of TAC,45.0grs of IMR 4895,45.5grs of Varget or 46.5grs of Accurate 4064 with a 168gr Ballistic Tip.I'll have to some more testing using a Winchester case next time.They have about .5 gr greater case capacity.I think I can get a really good load with 50.5grs or 51.0grs.
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TRex,
You are a wise fellow to have stock on hand. I’m good for everything short of a zombie apocalypse and maybe even that.
I have multiple hunting buds clamoring for all kinds of hunting ammo that’s just not available and several asking me to handload some for them. They furnish components and I’ll help them out.
Happy Trails
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I had really good accuracy with Big Game in the 7mm-08 with 162gr bullets. ES under 10 for one rifle.
I know we’ve talked about this but I’ve forgotten. Could you post your recipe, including muzzle velocity? I have a bunch of 162 eldx I use in my 7mm Rem Mag and I keep wondering about them in my 7mm-08s. P For the 7mm-08 with 162gr AMAX, I used 43gr of Big Game with a Fed 215, and got 2600 FPS. Just note that this was before the plant burned down, or whatever happened back then that stopped the supply for awhile. I switched to 40gr of RL15 then, with the Fed 215, and was getting 2630 FPS with similar accuracy but slightly higher ES. No noticeable difference out to 600 yards though. Both loads shot great.
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Pharmseller With this particular load, I was running 47 grains. Charlie
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JWall Yes. My experience agrees with yours. Taking this one step further, when measuring pressure, low deviations on pressure don't necessarily mean good accuracy. But it is a good place to start. Charlie
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dave7mm Seems Big Game does burn pretty clean. And at night doesn't seem to have as much muzzle flash as other powders do. Charlie
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