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Stumbled upon, would like to try. Anyone point to specific manual(s) to seek data, or someone have sourced data to share? 38spl/158gr cast, 45Colt (SAA & S&W)/255gr-300gr cast, 9mm/115gr jacketed, 45acp/230gr jacketed in mind. Secondly. Considered a can of AL-7, too, but a quick google pretty much revealed mag pistol and (iirc) 1 1/4 oz 12ga, not much else. Wonder if would work well in 44mag (marlin slow twist, prolly <300gr cast). Anyone recall getting good utility from AL-7 in something?
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Approach with caution very old data
AL-5 DATA
Speer #6
.38 Special - Western case - CCI 500 146-gr Speer .357-146-HP - 6.0 to 8.0 - 824 to 1079 fps 160-gr Speer .357-160-SP - 6.0 to 7.0 - 870 to 994
.357 Magnum - Western case - CCI 550 146-gr Speer .357-146-HP - 9.5 to 10.5 - 1167 fps to 1396 fps 160-gr Speer .357-160-SP - 9.0 to 10.0 - 1185 to 1267
Speer #8
.380 ACP - WW case - CCI 500 90-gr JHP - 5.0 to 5.5 - 951 to 1014 fps 95-gr cast RN - 4.7 to 5.0 - 900 to 1003
9mm Luger - WRA case - CCI 550 125-gr Speer SP - 6.0 to 7.0 - 957 to 1105 fps
.38 Super - WW case - Alcan small pistol 90-gr JHP - 8.5 to 9.5 - 1407 to 1495 fps 125-gr Speer SP - 7.5 to 8.5 - 1145 to 1269
.38 Special - Speer/DWM case - CCI 500 158-gr Speer SWC or RN - 6.0 to 7.0 - 908 to 1046 fps 140-gr Speer HP - 8.0 to 9.0 - 1060 to 1212 146-gr Speer HP - 6.0 to 8.0 - 811 to 1111 160-gr Speer SP - 6.0 to 7.0 - 867 to 1000
.357 Magnum - Speer case - CCI 500 158-gr Speer SWC or RN - 9.0 to 10.0 - 1209 to 1299 fps 110-gr JHP - 10.5 to 11.5 - 1380 to 1453 125-gr Speer SP - 9.0 to 11.0 - 1145 to 1317 146-gr Speer HP - 9.0 to 11.0 - 1182 to 1250 160-gr Speer SP - 8.0 to 10.0 - 1027 to 1141
.41 Magnum - Remington case - CCI 300 210-gr case SWC - 9.0 to 10.0 - 975 to 1059 200-gr Speer HP - 10.5 to 12.5 - 1093 to 1236 220-gr Speer SP - 9.0 to 11.0 - 933 to 1115
.44 Special - WW case - CCI 300 215-gr cast SWC - 10.0 to 11.0 - 880 to 965 fps 250-gr cast SWC - 8.0 to 9.0 - 767 to 866
.44 Magnum - WW case - CCI 350 225-gr Speer HP - 12.5 to 14.5 - 1197 to 1341 fps 240-gr Speer SP - 11.0 to 13.0 - 1074 to 1238
.45 ACP - Federal case - CCI 300 225-gr cast RN - 7.5 to 8.0 - 837 to 882 fps 230-gr FMJ - 7.5 to 8.0 - 795 to 833
.45 Auto Rim - WRA case - CCI 300 240-gr cast SWC - 7.0 to 9.0 - 822 to 994 fps 200-gr Speer SP - 11.0 to 13.0 - 1040 to 1175
.45 Colt - WW case - CCI 300 200-gr Speer LSWC - 11.0 to 12.5 - 933 to 1037 fps 250-gr cast GC - 9.5 to 10.5 - 786 to 870
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Those powders were obsolete before I started handloading 47 years ago! That said, I've never used any of them except some AL-8, I might even have a half pound of it around here someplace. I had a friend who swore by the stuff in .41 Mag, and went to TN and killed a boar with the Lyman 410459 and a stiff load of AL-8 from a 4" M57 Smith.
That said, the Speer data provided above seems very similar to Herco loads in those applications, you might be able to extrapolate some of that data for the elderly Alcan stuff.
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Thank you for the thoughts and data fellas.
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I use AL-7 & AL-8 in rifle cast loads. It produces good groups for me.
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I have about 2lbs of AL-5 left, from an 8lb keg my Dad bought sometime in the 60's. I've been using it in a Sig P238 (380acp), Ruger Security Six (as 38Spcl.), and a couple of 9mm, for many, many years.
The load data that Swifty52 published, is what I follow for 38Spl, 380ACP and 9MM, and have had no problems at all.
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I use AL-7 & AL-8 in rifle cast loads. It produces good groups for me.
Well, do tell - what cartridges do you load with it? Might have a reason here to try it.
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Hello! Just found this thread. I have unopened cans of AL-5 and Bullseye powder. They are most likely from the 70's. Anyone have a guess about what they're worth? Pics are too large for me to post on this forum. Thanks!
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