24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Looking for a scope to put on a 308 win. Max range 1000 yards. Looking at a Bushnell LRHS2. SWFA seems to be constantly backordered? Any other recommendations?

GB1

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,005
O
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
O
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,005
Nightforce

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,792
H
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
H
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,792
What is your budget?

John


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,832
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,832
Nightforce

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 9,518
H
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
H
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 9,518
Currently my "target" 308 (20" SPS Tact 1:12 varmint contour) has an 8.5-25x50 30MM Leupold. The favorite scope I had on that rifle was a 4.5-14x50 Zeiss Conquest w/target turrets. I no longer have the Zeiss because the turrets and power ring are backwards from Leupold/Nightforce.


I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.
IC B2

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 17,390
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 17,390
NRA Highpower limits zoom to 4X at 600 years, and PRS has a military category that limits zoom to 6x at 1,000 yards, and plenty of people are hitting the targets.

More zoom does not equal more precision. Precision is a factor of the rifle and the ammo.

More zoom does let you see hits and misses better.

If you're not runnin and gunnin in competition, the SWFA 6X MQ will get you there.

Snipers in Vietnam were using 4x and 10X optics and the 10X was considered to top magnification by some. More than 10X, and mirage becomes a factor, as well.


“Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General
John Stark.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,483
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,483
Originally Posted by Esox357
Looking for a scope to put on a 308 win. Max range 1000 yards. Looking at a Bushnell LRHS2. SWFA seems to be constantly backordered? Any other recommendations?

Sounds like you're on the right track, IMO.

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,483
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,483
Originally Posted by David_Walter
NRA Highpower limits zoom to 4X at 600 years, and PRS has a military category that limits zoom to 6x at 1,000 yards, and plenty of people are hitting the targets.

More zoom does not equal more precision. Precision is a factor of the rifle and the ammo.

More zoom does let you see hits and misses better.

If you're not runnin and gunnin in competition, the SWFA 6X MQ will get you there.

Snipers in Vietnam were using 4x and 10X optics and the 10X was considered to top magnification by some. More than 10X, and mirage becomes a factor, as well.

For the most part, I agree.

Precision is also a function of reticle and target subtension, in addition to rifle and ammo.

More magnification can help you see hits/misses up to a point, but FOV (especially in a dynamic situation) and mirage play a role, as well, and that limits the useful level of magnification for spotting your shots and making follow-ups.

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,326
R
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
R
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,326
There is an ugly SWFA on the sample list. Give it a try. Never been unhappy with mine...

https://www.samplelist.com/swfa-ss-hd-5-20x50-tactical-30mm-rifle-scope-demo-c-3.html

Last edited by Rifles And More; 04/30/21.

“Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.”
― Ernest Hemingway
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Originally Posted by Hondo64d
What is your budget?

John


1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00

IC B3

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Originally Posted by Rifles And More
There is an ugly SWFA on the sample list. Give it a try. Never been unhappy with mine...

https://www.samplelist.com/swfa-ss-hd-5-20x50-tactical-30mm-rifle-scope-demo-c-3.html

That is an ugly swfa, but glad 1 is available!

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,000
H
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,000
I still have my on a Tract

https://tractoptics.com/all-products/toric-uhd-30mm-4-20x50-ffp-mrad-mrad-long-range-rifle-scope

If you keep an eye on the classifieds, a LRTS or LRHS pop up from time to time.


He went over yonder way
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 13,091
D
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
D
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 13,091
I put a Vortex 3-15 ×50 LHT on mine. Very good scope, illuminated and 20 oz. Unless you need FFP, this is prefect choice. I just put one on my 340 Wby too.

I don't think a 308 is a good 1000 yard gun. Good 900 yard gun though


NRA Benefactor Member

Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Ideally 800 yards but will stretch it to 1000 yards. I have been to a competition that goes to 1800 yards but didn't even attempt it. I used a different 308 for that shoot. Running the 155 scenar and varget.

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
Originally Posted by Esox357
Ideally 800 yards but will stretch it to 1000 yards. I have been to a competition that goes to 1800 yards but didn't even attempt it. I used a different 308 for that shoot. Running the 155 scenar and varget.



Sadly, the 308 is outclassed for those types of shoots these days.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Unfortunately. If I knew what I was doing at 1500 and 1800 yards I would have tried. Still learning at 1000yards.

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,792
H
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
H
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,792
Originally Posted by Esox357
Originally Posted by Hondo64d
What is your budget?

John


1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00


Used LRTSi, LRHSi, or new LRHS 2. My preference is the LRTSi.

John


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 139
M
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
M
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 139
I have a Burris Tactical 8-40x 50mms with illuminated reticle. It can be had for about $1100 or less. It's a decent piece of you're looking for an F-class type of scope. Has 1/8 MOA dials, side paralax. Burris stands behind their stuff, lifetime warranty.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
I'm waiting on my LRHS2 coming that I pre ordered from Georgia Arms.

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 5,524
S
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 5,524
3-15x50 NXS used, someone had one for sale here for around $1500.

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,344
B
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
B
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,344
If I can't see it I can't hit it. I have a 2.5x-25x-42 March that I will put on my 309.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Nice. Still waiting for GAP optics to send me a LRHS2!

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,170
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,170
.


Randy
NRA
Patriot Life Benefactor





Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,281
P
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,281
Originally Posted by Esox357
Originally Posted by Hondo64d
What is your budget?

John


1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00


>used Nightforce scope


LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
Originally Posted by pete53
Originally Posted by Esox357
Originally Posted by Hondo64d
What is your budget?

John


1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00


>used Nightforce scope

This


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Esox357 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,777
Only downside is NF has less eye relief from my understanding.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,593
Dre Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,593
I think at that price point I’d look at tract as well


All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
Originally Posted by Esox357
Only downside is NF has less eye relief from my understanding.


I've never had an issue with ER on a Nightforce scope. I use several, including the SHV 5-20x56, NXS 5.5-22x56 and NXS 3.5-15x56. No issues with any of them.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,932
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,932
Originally Posted by Dre
I think at that price point I’d look at tract as well


I have both Nightforce NXS as well as the SHV. I also have a Tract Toric. From a glass perspective, Tract has the Nightforce beat. The only issue I had with eye relief was with the Nightforce SHV 4-14x50F1. It has a straight 3.1" eye relief across the board. To contrast, the Tract Toric has 3.9" of eye relief across the board.

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,758
J
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,758
Originally Posted by devnull
Originally Posted by Dre
I think at that price point I’d look at tract as well


I have both Nightforce NXS as well as the SHV. I also have a Tract Toric. From a glass perspective, Tract has the Nightforce beat. The only issue I had with eye relief was with the Nightforce SHV 4-14x50F1. It has a straight 3.1" eye relief across the board. To contrast, the Tract Toric has 3.9" of eye relief across the board.


I use NXS in the 2.5-10 (42 and 32), SHV's in the 3-10, and the Tract Toric 2-10. I do think the glass in the Toric is a little better and the eye relief is certainly better. None of that is a cut on the Nightforce scopes.....the Toric just has some really nice user characteristics for a hunting scope.

Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792
G
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792


Recently bought 2 Zeiss Conquest HD 4 2X10X42 those are the 2 brightest scopes I have ever owned. Now to see if they hold up. One is on a 270 Win Vanguard Stainless S2 and the other is on

a 7mm Mag Vanguard Stainless S2. Very happy with them so far. But there are many other fine scopes out there, I have used Nikon, Leupold and Burris in the past. None have ever had to be returned to

Manufacture. I have a scope I bought in 1980 I think it is a Leupold VX III in 2.5X8X36 That scope has been on almost ever rifle I own, can not say enough good things about it. About as perfect hunting scope as you can get.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

651 members (160user, 1badf350, 007FJ, 10gaugemag, 1936M71, 1234, 63 invisible), 2,786 guests, and 1,311 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,371
Posts18,469,224
Members73,931
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.123s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 0.9458 MB (Peak: 1.1334 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-26 00:34:42 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS