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Buddies & I were talking semi-serious hypotheticals and tasked ourselves to pick between these two rifles specifically and give our reasons. It was fun so I thought I’d ask you all.
A post 64 Winchester 70 CRF Featherweight vs the Tikka T3x. In your response, include the rifle, cartridge of choice & your rationale & load if you have one to share.
No factory ammo will be used. Assume the hunter already has a .223 and a 375 H&H
Purpose: Hogs, Deer & Elk Max Range: 500yd Average Range: 125-250yd Glass: Burris FF II 3-9 w/ BDC Shooting skill: Intermediate Handload: Yes Factory load: No
*This is a what happens when several friends drag the Leadcore & Spoons around Lake Champlain for 10 hours. Apologies in advance.
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be hard to overlook a fast twist 6mm.
proof prefit in 6mm creedmoor in a krg bravo is gonna be bad medicine for most all critters. 108gr eld and ur golden
or a 223 twisted right with enough room in the mag box to get the good bullets where they need to be.
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Winchester 70 Featherweight CRF in 7mm-08 or 7x57. The Tikka may be a hair more accurate (maybe not though), but it can't touch the class and cool factor of the Winchester. I still like a rifle with a walnut stock and blued streel. Nobody does that better than Winchester in the non custom rifle dept these days.
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Winchester Mod 70 in 300 WSM. Elk capable to 500 yards. Having handled and shot both rifles I feel the M70 has a better designed stock.
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Controlled round feed would be my choice.
Word on the street is that the Winchesters coming out of Portugal are very well made.
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Firstly,Teeker only makes (1) length centerfire receiver,whether it 223 or 7mm RemMag. Everything is shoehorned into same,with their Dog Schit magazines. Hint. 70's come in S/A and L/A,with the S/A having the mechanical advantage,as it grants longer COAL than "most" S/A's and their L/A is the fhuqking opposite(trite). Hint. CRF makes less than zero fhuqks and the Teeker schit mag is single stack and obviously polymer lipped,so they feed slick by default. Teeker wears the better trigger to boot and as an ergo rule,a better fitting stock. Hint. Teeker 223's suck heavy ass as issued,do their Dog Fhuqk COAL and Goat Fhuqk magazine. Toss it an AICS pitch and you can do some thangs. 1-8" version here. Hint. Winny Retard Twists their .284's and also does the mag spacer block in S/A. 7-08 here. Hint. As 300 Whizzum's go,the Winny is a Goat Fhuqk. All wear schit stocks,throats are long and the recoil muchly in relation to mass. Second from bottom. Hint. The Winny Milk Jug stocks are amongst THE worst and the Dog Dick action fasteners,a fhuqking joke. The multi-piece bottom metal,is also fhuqking HILARIOUS. A Montucky chambered same,shoots wayyyyyyyy softer,despite being of less gross mass. Hint. Just sayin'. Hint. Laughing!..............
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Have a 280 and a 6.5cm, both pretty new CRF featherweights. Both shoot MOA with factory ammo. 6.5 with Hornady 129s. 280 with 140 trophy copper. Both cycle smooth as glass. Prefer walnut and metal components.
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Controlled round feed would be my choice.
Word on the street is that the Winchesters coming out of Portugal are very well made. Portugal fit and finish is outstanding.
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70 all day long for me. A few easy mods to the 70 are my way to roll. I tried to love the Tikka and still have a couple, but the 70's work better for me. I'd bet a dollar their 6.5 CM in an EW would be pretty decent if you like the stock.
I don't love the FN trigger's, but they aren't a huge mountain to fix up either. Their 7-08 in the same EW would be a heckuva good rifle. Shoot the factory barrel for awhile and change it out to something more useful. Might not be a bad set up either.
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I’m hooked on model 70s and really like blue and wood but I have some with McMillan stocks and even some with so-called plastic stocks as well. Can’t go wrong with a model 70 in 30-06 or 280 or 338-06 or or or you name it. Les
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If it were me, M70 all the way
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Winchester 70 Featherweight CRF in 7mm-08 or 7x57. The Tikka may be a hair more accurate (maybe not though), but it can't touch the class and cool factor of the Winchester. I still like a rifle with a walnut stock and blued streel. Nobody does that better than Winchester in the non custom rifle dept these days. If you're looking for class, forget the 7mm-08 and go 7x57.....that package will handle anything you mentioned, and with panache. If you feel compelled to get a 7mm-08 get the Tikka. You won't be sorry...
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Hilariously,adding case length to a schit rifle,do NOT "help" it or it'sRetard Twist Rate. Hint. Congratulatons?!?
Not that I don't enjoy Fhuqktards trying their BEST. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!
Bless your poor poor(literally) hearts.
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Montana in 7mm-08 or 280ai if you want a long action.
Tikka in 308 would work too.
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pretty ez to get a 162gr eld-m up to speed in a tikka 7mm-08
lengthen the bolt stop and run a -06 length mag
heaps of room to groove.
but you said O-250 and maybe 500
in case i'd 223 tikka in a krg bravo..
never wanted or touched the kimber montana 223, or even the fieldcraft.
ez pass.
make the shooting part easier. that's the goal
and if 2lbs upsets ya, not sure how ur gonna manage straps, loins, 4 quarters and head from 7-8 miles back.
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Stick - I should know better, but gonna ask anyway. Honest question: other than not caring for CRF what's the big objection to new M70s?
For what they cost and what you get they strike me as a nice deal. (Assuming you want walnut/blued)
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Another vote for CRF in short and long actions vs the Tikka one size fits all push feed action...To me the Tikka's are good shooting tools but they have no soul like a Winchester 70 or Kimber Montana does...Hb
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Stick - I should know better, but gonna ask anyway. Honest question: other than not caring for CRF what's the big objection to new M70s?
For what they cost and what you get they strike me as a nice deal. (Assuming you want walnut/blued) CRF is moot and nary a point. Hint. The new 70's are RagTag schit and of Dog Dick materials. Walnut/blued is THE worst "option" available to anyone. Hint. I've Pre-64's,Post,Transition and New CRF's. Winny drops all balls,as Mechanics go. The stocks are routinely schit,as are the triggers and they are hillairously inept. Hint. A "good" deal? Hardly. Hint. Laughing!.......................
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To me the Tikka's are good shooting tools but they have no soul like a Winchester 70 or Kimber Montana does...Hb Of the choices, make mine a M70 (or a Kimber). But don't forget the Kimber Classics and Classic Selects. About 1/2 pound heavier than the Kimber Montana, but a pound lighter than the M70 Featherweight. Much classier than the Fwt too.
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