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I’m on Roger Greene’s list for a female. He’s outta omak. Just had a litter a couple weeks ago, think it was 7 males and 1 female


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For those guys who have or have had both a Female & Male Drahthaar -

What is your take on a Female ...

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I prefer females in any breed. Just personal preference


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I think they're ugly as hell and generally have no personality however some of the ones I have been around have also been incredible bird dogs.

Females generally mind better but it is all in the individual breeding and their individual personality, I guess. Having them go into heat during bird season is frustrating, but so is a male that knows a female in heat is around...



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Like a lot of breeds, they are all over the board. Maybe less than some, but still.....I’ve seen big running leggy bastards that will cover way more ground than you can see and some slow working heel hounds as well.

Find a breeder that has dogs that hunt, and hunt how you like to.

I’ve always had female dogs. May get a male next, but who knows.


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Had great luck with males so far. Keep them intact till around 2 years of age, neuter them and move on. The Drahthaar breeding requirements are very rigid and expensive. I never entertained raising one to breed due to that. Guess some guys register them as AKC GWP and breed GWP dogs but that is generally looked down upon within Drahthaar circles.

With a 4 year old and a 1 year old, I am good for about 7 years or so. Got an idea or two about where my next one will come from.

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T Inman no personality? yea right.

In the hunting field they are all business but once at home they are intelligent and full of personality. Have had 5 over the past 30 yrs and have known many that were owned by friends. ALL had lots of personality. Geez.

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Originally Posted by Azshooter
T Inman no personality? yea right.

In the hunting field they are all business but once at home they are intelligent and full of personality. Have had 5 over the past 30 yrs and have known many that were owned by friends. ALL had lots of personality. Geez.



Our experience differs, and that is fine but I suspect our definition of "personality" also differs.
Sounds like the breedings you and your friends have found are a match for what you want, and that is great.

All the drathaars I have been around were not a match for what I want.



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For me I need a little waterfowl work and a lot of upland work. Toss in a little fur work. Haven't wounded any deer but if I do, they'll get the call on that tracking job too. As mentioned, the ones I am around do great in the house, with family and strangers, and excel in the field. If you are a cat person, you may want to explore some other breeds.
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The ones I've been around, well say 55 out of 60 or so, would have served my needs very well. Very consistent breed and more so when trained early and hunted often.

That said, there are a crap ton of alternative breeds so by all means if after checking out drahts and they aren't for you, grab something else. But I like ugly dogs.

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Ok so here goes for a first post,

I echo everything 30338 has to say about the best dogs in the field. But I’m admittedly biased. I have the full brother to his younger dog but you’d never know it by looking at them. If you don’t like the “wookie” look, have no fear they come with what’s called a “tight” coat as well. Similar to a GSP but much more dense. When I first got my Draht I was a little worried about his toughness in cold weather and cold water hunting waterfowl. That was soon put to rest when I couldn’t keep him out of the river at minus ten.

I have had numerous dogs throughout the years ranging from shorthairs, springers, labs and setters but I don’t think I’ll ever have another breed from here on out. My dog has been a hoot to be around and he has as much personality as anything else I’ve had. He is a really hard worker in the field and hangs out calm as can be at home. He’s never hinted at any kind of aggression toward another human. He loves my girls the best as they spoil him I think. He’s hunted pretty much everything Idaho can throw at a dog and he’s really taken a liking to fetching rock chucks. If you want a dog that can do it all I think you’re on the right track. I would also encourage going through the testing process as I feel it enhances the breed as a whole. We just finished up the VJP test a few weeks ago and are currently trying to get ready for the Armbruster.

One last thought, I think they’re the best looking dog around especially compared to a Brittany 😜. If I can figure out the picture thing I’ll post some up.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I think they're ugly as hell and generally have no personality however some of the ones I have been around have also been incredible bird dogs.

Females generally mind better but it is all in the individual breeding and their individual personality, I guess. Having them go into heat during bird season is frustrating, but so is a male that knows a female in heat is around...
I'd bet I know (at least 2) the dogs you are talking about! laugh

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Originally Posted by Azshooter
T Inman no personality? yea right.

In the hunting field they are all business but once at home they are intelligent and full of personality. Have had 5 over the past 30 yrs and have known many that were owned by friends. ALL had lots of personality. Geez.



Our experience differs, and that is fine but I suspect our definition of "personality" also differs.
Sounds like the breedings you and your friends have found are a match for what you want, and that is great.

All the drathaars I have been around were not a match for what I want.



T....what are you looking for in a dog....always like a different view......bob.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I think they're ugly as hell and generally have no personality however some of the ones I have been around have also been incredible bird dogs.

Females generally mind better but it is all in the individual breeding and their individual personality, I guess. Having them go into heat during bird season is frustrating, but so is a male that knows a female in heat is around...
I'd bet I know (at least 2) the dogs you are talking about! laugh


2 (maybe 3) out of about 10 Drahthaars.
Most of my South Idaho mafia uses English or German Short Hairs which I like the looks of better, have less hair to get less burrs, shed water better and even though they do shed, they don't shed that long vacuum clogging hair. They're on par with drathaar hunting ability, IME. It is all in the breeding and training, I believe.



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T Inman no personality? yea right.

In the hunting field they are all business but once at home they are intelligent and full of personality. Have had 5 over the past 30 yrs and have known many that were owned by friends. ALL had lots of personality. Geez.



Our experience differs, and that is fine but I suspect our definition of "personality" also differs.
Sounds like the breedings you and your friends have found are a match for what you want, and that is great.

All the drathaars I have been around were not a match for what I want.



T....what are you looking for in a dog....always like a different view......bob.


See above.
As far as personality I am sure there are draths out there that I would like, I just haven't been around one yet. They haven't been real playful or "social", which I guess is good and bad. They've been too independent and hard headed, though all breeds can be that way.



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Beware, they are born to kill, the Seal team 6 of dogs. Some interesting stories on Drahtaar addiction and other sites where Drahts brought home dead coyotes, fox etc.
We have a PUDELPOINTER and she likes to hunt everything. Gets along very well with other dogs. The best thing I ever did was have her trained at Quinebaug kennels and a weekend session at QK with Rick Smith.
I started looking at Drahts and was talked out of them, happy with the PP, she’s high strung enough. LOL
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Originally Posted by Mbogo2106
Ok so here goes for a first post,

I echo everything 30338 has to say about the best dogs in the field. But I’m admittedly biased. I have the full brother to his younger dog but you’d never know it by looking at them. If you don’t like the “wookie” look, have no fear they come with what’s called a “tight” coat as well. Similar to a GSP but much more dense. When I first got my Draht I was a little worried about his toughness in cold weather and cold water hunting waterfowl. That was soon put to rest when I couldn’t keep him out of the river at minus ten.

I have had numerous dogs throughout the years ranging from shorthairs, springers, labs and setters but I don’t think I’ll ever have another breed from here on out. My dog has been a hoot to be around and he has as much personality as anything else I’ve had. He is a really hard worker in the field and hangs out calm as can be at home. He’s never hinted at any kind of aggression toward another human. He loves my girls the best as they spoil him I think. He’s hunted pretty much everything Idaho can throw at a dog and he’s really taken a liking to fetching rock chucks. If you want a dog that can do it all I think you’re on the right track. I would also encourage going through the testing process as I feel it enhances the breed as a whole. We just finished up the VJP test a few weeks ago and are currently trying to get ready for the Armbruster.

One last thought, I think they’re the best looking dog around especially compared to a Brittany 😜. If I can figure out the picture thing I’ll post some up.


The rest of this litter looks like this guy, not my hairy beast lol. Great coats for a variety of upland and waterfowl. Here is Mbogo2106's pup.
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And this is a pic of yet another full brother from VJP test day. Very tight coat, and some decent head fuzz too.
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Kurt, thanks for posting those pictures. Just for the record though, Hank is the bottom picture. Aggie (Jina) is the top picture. It’s ok though as she’s a female out of that litter too. It was kind of funny, my daughter swore it was Hank when she saw the pictures but a dog dad knows better. But I will admit that some of the other pictures of her look a lot like him. Probably more so than the other males

Are you going to run Harvey in the Armbruster? We’ve been working hard on force fetch hopefully to be ready for September.

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