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That article is from 2015. Just saying. This article proved mRNA didn't work in animals, and has not been proven to even work in animals sense then for a corona family virus shot. What part of that fact are you incapable of comprehending? It is laughable, and shows you are a fool for attempting to state research from the past has zero significance. According to your analogy, the Constitution has no significance either, idiot. When a lawyer is building a case for a client, and researching past law, is it insignificant too, you limp brain?
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Against my better judgement, I'll engage on this. This study Here's a study out of Israel published in the Lancet. They found 91 percent effectiveness in real-world use. This study wasn't part of the trials, and was not conducted by the manufacturer. I'm curious though, where are you getting this stuff? Someone is digging deep to find studies for you to misrepresent. You're not changing any minds (though in fairness, I'm probably not either). You're just echoing back and forth among the same half-dozen tinfoil-hat commandos.
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Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test. Maybe you should learn to use your brain. Phase 3 is the last trial before FDA approval, and this shot does not have FDA approval. You keep spinning the truth here, OK you're lying. Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them. You're clueless. 1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement. 2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument. 3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact.
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1- it is a vaccine. That argument is ridiculous. No vaccine is 100 percent effective, though this one is close. When it doesn't prevent infection, it reduces severity. They won't claim that it stops community spread because they don't have the data YET (though initial results look promising). It doesn't mean that "everyone will get the virus anyway". 3- the vaccines on the market have completed phase 3 trials BEFORE they were granted an emergency use authorization, and all did well. Read the trial results. They're all public.
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Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test. Maybe you should learn to use your brain. Phase 3 is the last trial before FDA approval, and this shot does not have FDA approval. You keep spinning the truth here, OK you're lying. Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them. You're clueless. 1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement. 2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument. 3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. All of the vaccines are FDA approved under the EUA procedure. Date of First EUA Issuance Most Recent Letter of Authorization (PDF) Authorized Use 1 Fact Sheets and Manufacturer Instructions/ Package Insert (PDF) 12/11/2020 Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine (455KB) (Reissued February 25, 2021) Letter Granting EUA Amendment (January 6, 2021) (164KB) Letter Granting EUA Amendment (January 22, 2021) (190KB) For the prevention of 2019 coronavirus disease (COVID-19) for individuals 16 years of age and older Healthcare Providers (1.17MB) Recipients and Caregivers (172KB) View the Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers in multiple additional languages Decision Memorandum (709KB) Frequently Asked Questions on the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine More information about the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine 12/18/2020 Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine (392KB) (Reissued February 25, 2021) For the prevention of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for individuals 18 years of age and older Healthcare Providers (418KB) View the Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers Administering Vaccine in multiple additional languages Recipients and Caregivers (314KB) View the Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers in multiple additional languages Decision Memorandum (769KB) Frequently Asked Questions on the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine More information about the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine 02/27/2021 Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine (183KB) For the prevention of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for individuals 18 years of age and older Healthcare Providers (323KB) Recipients and Caregivers (135KB) Frequently Asked Questions on the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine Decision Memorandum (974KB) More information about the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine
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Against my better judgement, I'll engage on this. This study Here's a study out of Israel published in the Lancet. They found 91 percent effectiveness in real-world use. This study wasn't part of the trials, and was not conducted by the manufacturer. I'm curious though, where are you getting this stuff? Someone is digging deep to find studies for you to misrepresent. You're not changing any minds (though in fairness, I'm probably not either). You're just echoing back and forth among the same half-dozen tinfoil-hat commandos. "We defined all HCWs with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR at Sheba Medical Centre or in the community as cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection. You FAIL. The PCR test was never designed to be used for diagnostics, and the inventor has stated as such. That invalidates your whole "trial", if you can call it that. That is not a completed trial to determine total effectiveness, being it only started in Dec 2020. I believe it takes "years" to determine whether a shot has success, last I read. Thanks for the laughs. And yes, I believe I have changed minds, no matter how much gaslighting you clowns post about me. LOL at where I'm getting my 100% valid scientific evidence. Maybe I'm just slightly better connected than you, and have access to better research. Did that thought ever electrify any of your brain cells.
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Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test. Maybe you should learn to use your brain. Phase 3 is the last trial before FDA approval, and this shot does not have FDA approval. You keep spinning the truth here, OK you're lying. Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them. You're clueless. 1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement. 2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument. 3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. Enjoy the read. Abstract mRNA cancer vaccines are a relatively new class of vaccines, which combine the potential of mRNA to encode for almost any protein with an excellent safety profile and a flexible production process. The most straightforward use of mRNA vaccines in oncologic settings is the immunization of patients with mRNA vaccines encoding tumor-associated antigens (TAAs). This is exemplified by the RNActive® technology, which induces balanced humoral and cellular immune responses in animal models and is currently evaluated in several clinical trials for oncologic indications. A second application of mRNA vaccines is the production of personalized vaccines. This is possible because mRNA vaccines are produced by a generic process, which can be used to quickly produce mRNA vaccines targeting patient-specific neoantigens that are identified by analyzing the tumor exome. Apart from being used directly to vaccinate patients, mRNAs can also be used in cellular therapies to transfect patient-derived cells in vitro and infuse the manipulated cells back into the patient. One such application is the transfection of patient-derived dendritic cells (DCs) with mRNAs encoding TAAs, which leads to the presentation of TAA-derived peptides on the DCs and an activation of antigen-specific T cells in vivo. A second application is the transfection of patient-derived T cells with mRNAs encoding chimeric antigen receptors, which allows the T cells to directly recognize a specific antigen expressed on the tumor. In this chapter, we will review preclinical and clinical data for the different approaches.
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Your "research" is not better than one of the premier, peer-reviewed, medical journals in the world.
Your "research" is nothing but copy/paste word-vomit, that seems to be equal parts conspiracy blogs and misrepresented (and likely unread...) studies.
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1- it is a vaccine. That argument is ridiculous. No vaccine is 100 percent effective, though this one is close. When it doesn't prevent infection, it reduces severity. They won't claim that it stops community spread because they don't have the data YET (though initial results look promising). It doesn't mean that "everyone will get the virus anyway". Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htmYou're a clown and a waste of my time. The manuf even admitted it doesn't keep you from acquiring the infection, which is in direct contradiction to the definition of what immunity is. You are a clown. 3- the vaccines on the market have completed phase 3 trials BEFORE they were granted an emergency use authorization, and all did well. Read the trial results. They're all public. This is more lies. They never completed a full trial protocol starting with animals, and the EUA's are all illegal, which makes the shots illegal. You know absolutely zilch concerning the legality of the EUA's or you wouldn't be making that statement. I'm done with you. You waste people's time with lies.
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Here's a meta-analysis from the British medical journal supporting the effectiveness of RT-PCR here you go....Also, the Infectious Disease Society of America endorses RT-PCR as the diagnostic standard, but I'm sure those infectious disease docs don't have access to the kind of high quality "research" that you do....
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Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test. Maybe you should learn to use your brain. Phase 3 is the last trial before FDA approval, and this shot does not have FDA approval. You keep spinning the truth here, OK you're lying. Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them. You're clueless. 1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement. 2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument. 3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. All of the vaccines are FDA approved under the EUA procedure. Everything you posted is invalid and illegal, being the EUA's are all illegal, which makes the shots illegal. The fact you are clueless with the law concerning this matter here proves you are an amateur.
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Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test. Maybe you should learn to use your brain. Phase 3 is the last trial before FDA approval, and this shot does not have FDA approval. You keep spinning the truth here, OK you're lying. Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them. You're clueless. 1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement. 2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument. 3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. Enjoy the read. Abstract mRNA cancer vaccines are a relatively new class of vaccines, which combine the potential of mRNA to encode for almost any protein with an excellent safety profile and a flexible production process. The most straightforward use of mRNA vaccines in oncologic settings is the immunization of patients with mRNA vaccines encoding tumor-associated antigens (TAAs). This is exemplified by the RNActive® technology, which induces balanced humoral and cellular immune responses in animal models and is currently evaluated in several clinical trials for oncologic indications. A second application of mRNA vaccines is the production of personalized vaccines. This is possible because mRNA vaccines are produced by a generic process, which can be used to quickly produce mRNA vaccines targeting patient-specific neoantigens that are identified by analyzing the tumor exome. Apart from being used directly to vaccinate patients, mRNAs can also be used in cellular therapies to transfect patient-derived cells in vitro and infuse the manipulated cells back into the patient. One such application is the transfection of patient-derived dendritic cells (DCs) with mRNAs encoding TAAs, which leads to the presentation of TAA-derived peptides on the DCs and an activation of antigen-specific T cells in vivo. A second application is the transfection of patient-derived T cells with mRNAs encoding chimeric antigen receptors, which allows the T cells to directly recognize a specific antigen expressed on the tumor. In this chapter, we will review preclinical and clinical data for the different approaches. ROFLMAO.. You post cancer documentation when the topic is on a Corona virus. That's called a strawman argument in case you are completely void of brain cells. You lose. mRNA has failed in corona virus shot development for 20 years. Corona virus is the topic, not cancer, clown.
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Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test. Maybe you should learn to use your brain. Phase 3 is the last trial before FDA approval, and this shot does not have FDA approval. You keep spinning the truth here, OK you're lying. Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them. You're clueless. 1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement. 2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument. 3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. Enjoy the read. Abstract mRNA cancer vaccines are a relatively new class of vaccines, which combine the potential of mRNA to encode for almost any protein with an excellent safety profile and a flexible production process. The most straightforward use of mRNA vaccines in oncologic settings is the immunization of patients with mRNA vaccines encoding tumor-associated antigens (TAAs). This is exemplified by the RNActive® technology, which induces balanced humoral and cellular immune responses in animal models and is currently evaluated in several clinical trials for oncologic indications. A second application of mRNA vaccines is the production of personalized vaccines. This is possible because mRNA vaccines are produced by a generic process, which can be used to quickly produce mRNA vaccines targeting patient-specific neoantigens that are identified by analyzing the tumor exome. Apart from being used directly to vaccinate patients, mRNAs can also be used in cellular therapies to transfect patient-derived cells in vitro and infuse the manipulated cells back into the patient. One such application is the transfection of patient-derived dendritic cells (DCs) with mRNAs encoding TAAs, which leads to the presentation of TAA-derived peptides on the DCs and an activation of antigen-specific T cells in vivo. A second application is the transfection of patient-derived T cells with mRNAs encoding chimeric antigen receptors, which allows the T cells to directly recognize a specific antigen expressed on the tumor. In this chapter, we will review preclinical and clinical data for the different approaches. ROFLMAO.. You post cancer documentation when the topic is on a Corona virus. That's called a strawman argument in case you are completely void of brain cells. You lose. mRNA has failed in corona virus shot development for 20 years. Corona virus is the topic, not cancer, clown. Your words "3 - They didn't develop squat." Maybe you should go back and read my quote again.
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Your "research" is not better than one of the premier, peer-reviewed, medical journals in the world. You do realize scientists and doctors have been caught lying multiple times over the years in order to keep their grant monies flowing in research don't you. There was a recent article out stating how the integrity in research is rushed out so fast today, because of that very fact, that when others have attempted to duplicate the studies in the lab, they have failed. oops. I proved your posts invalid being it used an instrument not designed for such studies. Don't be upset of the fact you're having your azz handed to you, and need to gaslight me, because you are incapable of staying on topic, or providing solid evidence. Your "research" is nothing but copy/paste word-vomit, that seems to be equal parts conspiracy blogs and misrepresented (and likely unread...) studies. More gaslighting with zero evidence. You are a clown. Google my writing and show your brain dead followers here I'm copying and pasting, limp brain. Back up your blowhard mouthy accusations, clown
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Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test. Maybe you should learn to use your brain. Phase 3 is the last trial before FDA approval, and this shot does not have FDA approval. You keep spinning the truth here, OK you're lying. Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them. You're clueless. 1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement. 2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument. 3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. Enjoy the read. Abstract mRNA cancer vaccines are a relatively new class of vaccines, which combine the potential of mRNA to encode for almost any protein with an excellent safety profile and a flexible production process. The most straightforward use of mRNA vaccines in oncologic settings is the immunization of patients with mRNA vaccines encoding tumor-associated antigens (TAAs). This is exemplified by the RNActive® technology, which induces balanced humoral and cellular immune responses in animal models and is currently evaluated in several clinical trials for oncologic indications. A second application of mRNA vaccines is the production of personalized vaccines. This is possible because mRNA vaccines are produced by a generic process, which can be used to quickly produce mRNA vaccines targeting patient-specific neoantigens that are identified by analyzing the tumor exome. Apart from being used directly to vaccinate patients, mRNAs can also be used in cellular therapies to transfect patient-derived cells in vitro and infuse the manipulated cells back into the patient. One such application is the transfection of patient-derived dendritic cells (DCs) with mRNAs encoding TAAs, which leads to the presentation of TAA-derived peptides on the DCs and an activation of antigen-specific T cells in vivo. A second application is the transfection of patient-derived T cells with mRNAs encoding chimeric antigen receptors, which allows the T cells to directly recognize a specific antigen expressed on the tumor. In this chapter, we will review preclinical and clinical data for the different approaches. ROFLMAO.. You post cancer documentation when the topic is on a Corona virus. That's called a strawman argument in case you are completely void of brain cells. You lose. mRNA has failed in corona virus shot development for 20 years. Corona virus is the topic, not cancer, clown. Your words "3 - They didn't develop squat." Maybe you should go back and read my quote again. The subject is Corona virus, and everything I state is concerning Corona. Go run your obfuscating mouthy gaslighting elsewhere. You're a clown who can not refute anything I have posted. You spin, lie and use strawman arguments, just like all closet commies when debating.
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So far this thread I've given you 1. A real world clinical trial showing vaccine effectiveness 2. A meta-analysis validating the diagnostic instrument used in that trial 3. The consensus position from the authority on infectious diseases.
You've given "scientists have lied before!!!" as a blanket rejection of any main stream research. The odds of SO MANY researchers fraudulently creating such similar results is ASTRONOMICALLY small. That's why we have peer review and additional studies that recreate and verify results.
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Here's a meta-analysis from the British medical journal supporting the effectiveness of RT-PCR here you go....Also, the Infectious Disease Society of America endorses RT-PCR as the diagnostic standard, but I'm sure those infectious disease docs don't have access to the kind of high quality "research" that you do.... Once again clown, the inventor of the PCR test himself has stated the design of the PCR test was never to be used as a diagnostics tool. What part of cold hard evidence do you not appreciate, comprehend or are able to absorb into your two brain cells? The cycle CT in the PCR test can be changed to whatever you want it to produce, and that is how they were able to create the false positives during last year to keep the numbers high. Your inability to produce solid evidence is really getting tiresome.
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So far this thread I've given you 1. A real world clinical trial showing vaccine effectiveness 2. A meta-analysis validating the diagnostic instrument used in that trial 3. The consensus position from the authority on infectious diseases.
You've given "scientists have lied before!!!" as a blanket rejection of any main stream research. The odds of SO MANY researchers fraudulently creating such similar results is ASTRONOMICALLY small. That's why we have peer review and additional studies that recreate and verify results. You fail to acknowledge the instrument is not to be used for research, from the inventor himself, based on its design, and that factoid invalidates every point above you listed. You are a clown show, and it is free for everyone watching.
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Here you go.... The PCR argument is Facebook garbage. An out of context quote from 1996, where the inventor clarified that it detects quantitatively how much of a viral (HIV in this case) gene is present, not a qualitative "yes" or "no." It's easy to make validated protocols to use it effectively for diagnosis. STOP DOING YOUR "RESEARCH" ON FACEBOOK HERE
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