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Same technique used to be used in editorials. When infotainment replaced newsprint, spin replaced baiting and was offered as fact.
Radio and tv pundants still use it with some success, but master editorialists are waning.
I didnt even know Petzal was still writing. His articles had some occasional curmudgeon pepper. Better than being bland though.
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I much prefer writers who entertain, educate, and inform (thank you Mule Deer) to those who troll. I read that link and am not a bit smarter than I was before reading it.
Just my take, Rex
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Agreed other than the 22 magnum... 17’s are bout as worthless as a Micklecky with tits...
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"such as the Texas Rangers"
a fantastic piece of trolling!
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This thread clearly illustrates the benefits of trolling.
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I liked the article. I disagree on a couple and agree on a couple. I’ve always liked his writing. He can be a bit cantankerous but so can I.
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7mm RM is waaaay over rated.
280 AI? Absolutely not! It’s a fantastic round that can match the 7mm RM!
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He should've added all the 6.5's to the list...missed the most obvious one! That didn't take long LOL
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Pot stirring article for sure, I guess trolling is the word. Never shot much for factory 7mm Rem mag but know 1st hand it's effectiveness with quality hand loads. Feel the same on the 17's and the 30 gr V max loads in the 22 wmr are game changers for it. I guess I'm still reading gun articles to find opinions about what is right about this gun or that or how cartridges perform not to hear a bunch of negative sh*t formed and expressed that I find hard to believe. Mb
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9mm? You might need a high capacity magazine sometimes.
.22 Magnum? Go the other way on bullet weights. The .45 and 50 gr bullets are very effective on Fox's, Coyote's and large coons.
.30 Carbine? Was better than nothing for the men in back of the line (cooks, mechanics and others) that could not be issued those very expensive 1911's. But it is definitely no battle caliber.
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9mm? You might need a high capacity magazine sometimes.
.22 Magnum? Go the other way on bullet weights. The .45 and 50 gr bullets are very effective on Fox's, Coyote's and large coons.
.30 Carbine? Was better than nothing for the men in back of the line (cooks, mechanics and others) that could not be issued those very expensive 1911's. But it is definitely no battle caliber. The Korean "ROK's" seemed to do very well with them in Vietnam. Lots of them where I was, and most seemed to be carrying them. miles
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Instead of berating a good author, how about your top 20? Not in any certain order.... Aagard, Keith, O'Conner, Seyfried, Milek, Ayoob, Barsness, Bodington, Milek, Skelton, Jordan, Cooper, Adkins, Taffin, Roosevelt.....Taylor, Olson...Speed....Sharpe... That’s a pretty good list right there. I’ve never cared for Petzal’s writing he has a more superficial writing style. That may have something to do with the magazine that he writes for but his writing usually comes across as cookie cutter and lacking depth to me.
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I remember reading an article in "Outdoor Life" eons ago as I recall the predecessor to Jim Zumbo the 7mm Mag was no more effective than the 30-06. Broke my heart.
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That list is a pretty good start......
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Haven’t we been reading articles like this forever? Petz was asked to write it by FS and presented just enough juice to get folks talking. Funny we humans are. I mean he’s not wrong, in at least a ballistic sense, on several.
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I think the telling line in the article is "argue among yourselves. Leave me alone."
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I laughed when reading his explanation of the 10mm:
"This round was designed for the FBI when the Bureau found the 9mm woefully inadequate."
Does he not know the truth or is he just repeating something he read on the internet?
Kind of reminds me of the people that ask me "Why did the FBI adopt the 10 mm first and then go to the .40 S&W later?"
BTW, I usually read his stuff when I come across it. I enjoy his sarcasm.
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" the high capacity 9mm is necessary in case you're ever attacked by a biker gang while on vacation...." Circa 1979.
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