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Hmmm, I don't know. I never found it terribly difficult to kill deer with a bow myself, or a .22 rifle, or a handgun or muzzleloader or shotgun. Seems like a genuine Alabama retard is the only one having trouble here and is just too stupid to see it. LMAO

i seen the Deliverance movie ,you boys i mean boys are kinda busy with your banjo`s, that`s why you boys use that 30-30 .

Ahh yes, Deliverance. That was those cousin fuggin West Virginan's. The Adirondack's ain't in West Virginia dummy.

Funny as hell you think I need unemployment or "full corona benefits", whatever the hell that means but then you think riding a scooter and playing golf is cool. LOL

#cousinfugginretard

Deflave is possibly crushed cuz Bleck Furt is dissing him.

LMaO

Sure didn't take too awfully long for this to become a pizzing match.

I've killed a few deer with the 30-30 and none ran very far after being shot. These days I consider the 30-30 a fun gun; one I shoot for pleasure. FWIW, over half the deer I took with the 30-30 were shot with a 170 gr. cast bullet. These days the 30-30 goes on desert hikes usually load with my pet cast bullet load. Just fun walking around scaring the bejabbers out of running jackrabbits and taking an occasional coyote.

These days I do use more modern cartridges and like the .308, 30-06 .300 Win. Mag. and .35 Whelen, especially the latter if I'm after elk. However, I'm in the middle of a love affair with the 7x57 as far as pleasant shooting goes but have yet to hunt game. Stuff just keeps getting in the way.

My take on the .243 is I really do not like it. Years back when I lived in a small Nevada town, I took neighbor kids on their first deer hunts. They used the .243 Mauser I had at the time. Load was a near max and the 100 gr. Hornady. Four deer were taken. One dropped on the spot, two ran 50 to 75 yards before dropping and one easily 250 yards before running into a fence, then falling back and running into the fence again before expiring. Upon opening it up the heart and most of the lungs were Jello. I never could figure out what kept that deer on its feet.

Would I ever shoot another deer with on of my 30-30s? You never can tell. If the situation was right I see no reason why I shouldn't take the shot.

There's a story in an old Outdoor Life where a guy shot a grizzly bear that tied the world's record. He couldn't enter it in the books because he shot the bear though the head with his (GASP!) 30-30.
Paul B.

For the record I've just been having fun with Willto and have enjoyed it. I hope that goes both ways and he's enjoyed it too.

Same. Funny stuff.

Phaggs

Says the guy named after a Frank Zappa song about a transsexual. LOL!

We’re talking about 30-30’s here. You guys take your homo-erotic flirting somewhere else.

You and your boyfriend Francis need to lighten up.

Meanwhile, back on topic:
Every 30 WCF I’ve ever fired recoiled as much as a 30 Government with 200 gr bullets.

From an article on bullet calibre and killing on relatively fragile White Tail Deer: Why Rifle Calibers Don't Matter Much.

From the Article:

"Once you get to at least a .24 caliber bullet of reasonable sectional density (about .218), construction and sufficient impact velocity to destroy blood-bearing organs and quickly end circulation, the differences in killing power become minor on a light and fragile animal like a whitetail deer. We might like to think that at 150 yards, the maximum range at which an estimated 98% of deer are taken, there is a huge difference between a relatively low energy .30-30 and a more than double the energy .300 Magnum. However, there is actually no significant difference in killing power. Both are more than sufficient to take a whitetail deer quickly, cleanly and efficiently."

Randy Wakeman…… now that’s undisputed authority.