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@Paul Barnard

I hear you when you talk about some customers being uninformed and and blowhards.
I've seen them and experienced them.

And, you're right that some old guys will come in to chat and won't buy anything, while regaling you with their past experiences that you don't have time to listen to.

But, some older guys like myself have done their homework and know what they want.
When I walk in to a gun shop these days it is to buy something, or at least look at a very specific gun very carefully and make a decision whether I want it.
I might buy it on the spot, reject it outright, or give myself a day or two to make a decision.
I have already researched it on-line, checked reviews and forum posts, and studied disassembly diagrams.

What pisses me off and puts a gun shop on my boycott list is rudeness, indifference, elitist contempt and being judged by my appearance.

I am well-groomed, keep my hair cut, and dress neatly but casually.
But I am obviously over 60 and carrying more weight than I should.
And, I have encountered clerks who won't give me the time of day for some reason.

Really though, it's their loss.
There is a gun shop in Calgary that has Old West repro guns on the rack that I like, but I haven't bought anything from them.
However, I have found and bought those same guns elsewhere instead.
I never figured out why they seemed to treat me with contempt, but it matters not.
They have plenty of competition, and I got what I needed from that competition.
And I always make a point to advise people not to shop in there.

Bass Pro in Airdrie, Alberta, same thing.
Arrogant and indifferent clerks and management.

But I have found plenty of gun shops in Alberta that I very much like. The clerks are polite and responsive, and I have bought guns and ammo and supplies from all of them.
Their shipping is prompt if I mail order and their on-line inventory is always accurate.

When I speak on the phone with their staff, it is obvious that their management has educated them well, and that they are very aware how important that these things are in order to preserve customer loyalty and maximize their sales.

The clerks in these gun shops understand that they profit by their attitude as well, because it is reflected in how I have been treated by them.

Many years ago I worked in the Coast Guard exchange store in Kodiak. I worked in the sporting goods section. We had a decent selection of guns. Two customers I well remember. One was a young active duty guy who asked to hold just about every gun behind the counter the first time I saw him. I politely obliged and even joked with him a bit. He'd come in every so often and want to see more guns. I politely obliged. You see, he was a young lower enlisted guy with big dreams and a small bank account. I was happy to feed his dreams. We ended up becoming best friends and remain so to this day. I don't know if he ever bought anything back then, but he has a crap ton of guns now.

Another one was an older (70ish) guy. He was physically a small guy and when he spoke, he spoke with a bit of an impediment. The first few times he came in, I honestly thought he might be some kind of special needs person. I was always polite and accommodating. The more he came in, the more I realized he was actually very smart, and he also knew his stuff. He was a retired Navy KOrean vet. I ended up befriending him. He had some great stories. He was too old to hunt but loved venison. We set it up so that I could hunt by proxy for him my last year there. He was very good at gunsmithing and helped me tune a few rifles. He also helped me when I was learning to reload. RIP Fred, you were a goodun.

We don't have a good local one either. Jefferson Gun is just horrible in terms of price, selection and service. Puglias is good for what they have, but they are fairly limited. The counter help ALWAYS greets me.

Over on the MS Coast Dad's Super Pawn is outstanding in selection and price. They have had some good employees over the years and some goobs.

Cooks in D'iberville has a fair selection, fair prices and very helpful employees. They aren't overly warm and don't have bubbly personalities, but once you get to know them, they are truly solid.

I bought a Wrangler recently and have really enjoyed it. My first revolver of any kind. I don't own any collector's item guns, so I haven't felt self conscious about owning and liking it. I have just really had a blast learning to be a better shot while working a single action revolver. The sights are a non issue for me because if I hunt with a 22 I'm taking my rifle.

I've walked up to the gun counter at Cabela's with cash in my pocket, ready to make a purchase, and I will be unable to get anyone to give me the time of day. I'm not as young looking as I used to be but am still mistaken for someone in college, although I am ten years older than college age. If I'm at Cabela's, though, it's because the other stores didn't have what I wanted. I will grin and bear it and eventually flag someone down to help me. Interestingly enough, even when they know I'm a serious purchaser they still don't treat me with much politeness. It bugged me at first but has since stopped bothering me.

I have never owned a Heritage but have read the cylinder gaps run about .012-.014.

I have a Wrangler that's .004, about the same as Single-Sixes, Bearcats, and Colt 22 single actions.

Good chance those Hertiages are loud and have some velocity loss.

It should take 15 min. But all the stupid red tape involved and the old guys effing up and starting paperwork again. Two of us tied up for 30 min is an hour. That's what i meant

And as for hating senior citizens? Get real. I dislike jerks regardless of age. And after the 3rd time of explaining how to fill out the form and they ignore our instructions...it gets very irritating.

Point is that for several reasons those guns are the most annoying to sell.

Good posts by both Saddlegun and PaulBarnard.

I too spent many years behind a gunstore counter and managed two big gun stores many years ago before I worked in the Wholesale Firearms Industry many more years.
You see EVERY type of customer and it requires lots of patience and good diplomacy. A little Conflict Resolution skill helps too. It’s definitely not a job for just anyone. 🤠

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I hear ya. I don't expect much from Canuck Cabelas and I am usually not disappointed.

However, I still buy from them, if they have what I want.

However, basic job indifference and deliberate rudeness are two different things.

I buy from a gun shop in Central Alberta in a small town, off on it's own.
The staff are good people, but the owner is a bit of a dick, to put it bluntly.
(That opinion is shared by others.)

And that owner stays away from the sales counter usually.

Nevertheless, the shop has nice stuff, and I drop in whenever I get the chance.
I have bought several guns there, because the guys behind the counter actually wanted to sell guns and showed me guns when I asked.

The shops that I boycott took their rudeness to extremes.

If you dislike jerks, you should avoid mirrors.

Everything that you have said so far screams the fact that you should find a job outside the retail sector.

Face it man. You hate people.

That's fine. Many do.

But go drive a forklift or something instead.

Lol I guess that post isn't totally inaccurate. Just had 20 years of dealing with other people's messes.

When my college roommate and I hit the gunstores in Fargo in the early 90s, we had no money. Places figured that out and weren't too happy to see us. Except the one guy who figured out we might be future customers, and was always willing to let us look at a gun and discuss things with us. Roommate ended up working about 150 miles away, and became a very good customer for that salesman. Never hurts to be polite!

I have one. Works for what it is. It’s just a truck/pack gun.

oddly enough it was a salesman at the least friendly, tactical wannabe, lgs that turned me onto single action revolvers. a quiet, small, rotund, asian kid with coke-bottle glasses, and the totally incongruous and polish name of stasiu (stanley), took the time at the neglected revolver display to show me ruger single action revolvers. i was hooked and walked out with a new $450 single six. not too long later i chatted up stasiu again, and he pointed me to a pristine bearcat that came from an estate sale and was gathering cobwebs. i got it for $250. sadly stasiu moved on from that lgs and so did my gunbuying. this lgs now has new ruger wranglers “on sale for $289” (sic), which is a good $100 over what i paid elsewhere.

Just cause they are available, a dealer doesn't have to sell them. Drop the line, or just tack on $45 to the price and not sell as many.