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I have had no such procedures but a relative has.

A few times through the groin for angiograms to diagnose angina problems, without incident, with the the exception of the last one.

This time they dislodged some plaque, apparently, which in turn uncovered more serious problems.

Over the years since bypass surgery there has been stents installed through the wrist without incident. In and out the same day.


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Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
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Had the groin thing. No big deal

It’s not a problem until it is.
I’ve got 11 stents. Had balloons before stents were available. I’ve been told they had an operating team on standby while stents are being done. Methodist houston has 10 heart cath labs that are being used at the same time. Hasbeen

Yup...
During my first cath last year doc used so much heparin during the procedure that he couldn't use a plug in my groin. I had to lay flat on my back and not move for eight hours. About half way through my back was really hurting, RN thought I might be leaking. So she wanted to take a look at the site. She went out to fetch a new dressing and get some help, offered to sedate me. I told her no, I've got a pretty high tolerance for pain. She comes back with the new dressing stuff and a CNA that was built like an amazon. So the nurse rips off the original bandages, gets a quick look and then puts the the small patch on. The CNA jumps in, puts her full weight into both of her hands and holds pressure on the dressing. She's just about lifting herself off of the floor with her 250lb+ body weight all of it on my groin. She held it for a good eight minutes. Talk about pain...

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I had one through the wrist. No issues at all. On the plus side if you were to spring a leak it would be easier to plug it before you bleed out.


That was my main concern since I am in the mountains and 30 miles from the nearest medical facility and it would be easier to control a leak on the wrist than the groin if needed. Dr. says I have Angina and wants to go in to see or find a blockage, it sucks to get old.

It sounds high risk.
It's a shame that they have no cure.

I cured my patient.
Fortunately, he recovered 100%.
Not bragging...just blessed.
Maybe my results will be an encouragement to others here.
Are you a cardiac specialist ?? Never seen one on this site with such a high post count like yours in such a short period of time..Must be some down time on your part do to covid 19 ?? wink

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Perhaps the last post I made is worthy of consideration if it encourages someone enough to add a few years to their life. One of my patients was left for dead by his cardiologists and PCP. By the grace of the Great Physician, he lived for over two more healthy decades without surgical intervention. Even though he left this world, he lives today.

If you take time to watch the two short links in my signature, we both might consider my post count worth my while.

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Originally Posted by RJL53
Anyone here have a heart catheter procedure where the Dr. went in through you wrist vein instead of your groin vein? If so, were there any issues afterward to speak of? I'm thinking I would prefer the wrist, what say you?



They went in through my wrist but there was to sharp a curve at the heart to get the stent through so they ended up having to go up through my groin.

Going through the wrist is a lot better if it can be done.


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I'd prefer the wrist if possible. Don't bend it at all after the procedure, the RNs will tear you a new a$$ if they catch you.... hint. grin



You sure that wasn't for grabbing her azz?


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
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I'd prefer the wrist if possible. Don't bend it at all after the procedure, the RNs will tear you a new a$$ if they catch you.... hint. grin



You sure that wasn't for grabbing her azz?

The fentanyl made me do it. Beaumont has some real hotties... laugh

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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by coobie
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by RJL53
Originally Posted by Blackheart
I had one through the wrist. No issues at all. On the plus side if you were to spring a leak it would be easier to plug it before you bleed out.


That was my main concern since I am in the mountains and 30 miles from the nearest medical facility and it would be easier to control a leak on the wrist than the groin if needed. Dr. says I have Angina and wants to go in to see or find a blockage, it sucks to get old.

It sounds high risk.
It's a shame that they have no cure.

I cured my patient.
Fortunately, he recovered 100%.
Not bragging...just blessed.
Maybe my results will be an encouragement to others here.
Are you a cardiac specialist ?? Never seen one on this site with such a high post count like yours in such a short period of time..Must be some down time on your part do to covid 19 ?? wink

No, I'm not a cardiac specialist.
Yes, I've spent too much time here on breaks and evenings this past year.
Perhaps the last post I made is worthy of consideration if it encourages someone enough to add a few years to their life. One of my patients was left for dead by his cardiologists and PCP. By the grace of the Great Physician, he lived for over two more healthy decades without surgical intervention. Even though he left this world, he lives today.

If you take time to watch the two short links in my signature, we both might consider my post count worth my while.
So you are faith healer ? What is your medical background?

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Had both sides of my heart cath'ed 2019 during same procedure. One thru the wrist. And, IIRC, the other thru neck. No issues either way.



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Wrist no issues. Did'n use my right hand much for a couple days. Brother did the groin/leg and stayed low for a few days.

Worse part was they split my sternum open the following week and stripped a vein out of my leg. The heart cath was nothing compared to those procedures. Actually the leg hurt worse than the open heart part.

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Had it done April of 16 3 stents thru the wrist , most painkillers don't work very well on me. Felt like a hot,rusty barbwire running thru my chest. Kept telling the doc. I need more stuff ,he said my O2 was below 20 and could not give me anymore I will never let anyone do that again ever!


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Originally Posted by RJL53
Anyone here have a heart catheter procedure where the Dr. went in through you wrist vein instead of your groin vein? If so, were there any issues afterward to speak of? I'm thinking I would prefer the wrist, what say you?


Both have advantages.

Some things require groin access (balloon pump, impella, etc...)

We do mostly wrist, but use groin as needed.

From a patient standpoint, wrist>groin

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Originally Posted by Orion2000
Had both sides of my heart cath'ed 2019 during same procedure. One thru the wrist. And, IIRC, the other thru neck. No issues either way.

There neck was a right heart Cath to check pressures in the pulmonary artery. It's venous, not arterial

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Originally Posted by 1beaver_shooter
Had it done April of 16 3 stents thru the wrist , most painkillers don't work very well on me. Felt like a hot,rusty barbwire running thru my chest. Kept telling the doc. I need more stuff ,he said my O2 was below 20 and could not give me anymore I will never let anyone do that again ever!

Damn. That sucked.

My two were strictly diagnostic, so nothing but imagery. No procedures done while in there.


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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by RJL53
Originally Posted by Blackheart
I had one through the wrist. No issues at all. On the plus side if you were to spring a leak it would be easier to plug it before you bleed out.


That was my main concern since I am in the mountains and 30 miles from the nearest medical facility and it would be easier to control a leak on the wrist than the groin if needed. Dr. says I have Angina and wants to go in to see or find a blockage, it sucks to get old.

It sounds high risk.
It's a shame that they have no cure.

I cured my patient.
Fortunately, he recovered 100%.
Not bragging...just blessed.
Maybe my results will be an encouragement to others here.


You cure coronary artery disease now?

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Originally Posted by antlers
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Had the groin thing. No big deal
It’s not a problem until it is. I’ve got 11 stents. Had balloons before stents were available. I’ve been told they had an operating team on standby while stents are being done. Methodist houston has 10 heart cath labs that are being used at the same time.
That’s because if they perforate a coronary artery while they’re placing a stent or blowing up a balloon, you gotta go straight to the OR to have a CABG (coronary artery bypass graft).

We have a few other ways to "fix" a perf now, but it's never ideal.

IMO, having an angiogram anywhere that doesn't do cardiac surgery is risky.

Just because it's routine doesn't mean it's not risky.

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Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
Originally Posted by 12344mag
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I'd prefer the wrist if possible. Don't bend it at all after the procedure, the RNs will tear you a new a$$ if they catch you.... hint. grin



You sure that wasn't for grabbing her azz?

The fentanyl made me do it. Beaumont has some real hotties... laugh



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Heart cath was through the wrist. Had a cardiac cath/ablation procedure a few weeks later and it was through the groin because they have to feed several leads to the heart. No problems with either; you’re sedated so you’ll wake up after a short nap. Same deal about keeping the direct pressure on the incisions.

IIRC after the ablation procedure they had some kind of device to keep you from moving your leg until they were sure there was no bleeding.

Both times they shaved both areas in case they had to go the other route.

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Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
Originally Posted by hanco
Had the groin thing. No big deal

It’s not a problem until it is. . . .
Hasbeen


A friend of mine had the groin procedure done with
no problems for a while. Then he started collapsing
with his leg out of order that they diagnosed as
mild strokes. Fast forward a decade. He's passed
from heart and diabetes. I have a problem that
they diagnosed as needing a stent and haggle open
my groin and all is said and done. That is, until
my leg collapses on me like a switch was flipped off.
They look and test and test and look. They say it's
the symptoms of a stroke, but there's no signs at
all that I've had one other than my leg refusing to
work at random times. My personal opinion is that
some of these surgeons slip and miss a bit and
either hit a big nerve or sever one inside when
they're trying to split that artery. My own doctor
was very hesitant and reluctant to discuss any of
the details of it other than take yer meds on schedule
and we'll see you in a few weeks. See the receptionist.

They sure won't tell off on each other in the least way

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Originally Posted by navlav8r
Heart cath was through the wrist. Had a cardiac cath/ablation procedure a few weeks later and it was through the groin because they have to feed several leads to the heart. No problems with either; you’re sedated so you’ll wake up after a short nap. Same deal about keeping the direct pressure on the incisions.

IIRC after the ablation procedure they had some kind of device to keep you from moving your leg until they were sure there was no bleeding.

I've had five heart caths, the last four have been done under conscious sedation. Been able to watch the procedure being done if the monitors are angled in the right direction, I remember hearing the cardiologist calling out the different tips he was using to thread though some tight spots. I came out of the sedation just before doc was finished during my last cath three weeks ago. Even though I didn't move or say a word I heard doc call out the nurse's name rather abruptly, she raced over to the IV bag and seconds later my arm got rather warm. Back to my happy place I went... grin

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