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So seems like some people fuss about partitions being hard to load for. Had a guy tell me he weighed some and they varied as much as 2 grains in their spread. I have about 5 boxes of 6.5 125 grn partitions, so I decided to weigh some. Took several random ones from all but 1 of the boxes, and weighed 15. Results were as follows: 125.1, 125 4x, 124.9 2x, 124.8, 124.7 3x, 124.6 2x, and 124.4 2x. So there was a total of .7 grains difference in the weights. And I got these from 2 different people at 2 different times, from 2 different states. I dont know if you think that is acceptable, but I didnt think it was too bad!
......the occasional hunter wielding a hopelessly inaccurate rifle, living by the fantastical rule that this cartridge can deliver the goods, regardless of shot placement or rifle accuracy. The correct term for this is minute of ego.
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The Nosler Partition is perhaps the finest non-dangerous game bullet ever designed.
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So seems like some people fuss about partitions being hard to load for. Had a guy tell me he weighed some and they varied as much as 2 grains in their spread. I have about 5 boxes of 6.5 125 grn partitions, so I decided to weigh some. Took several random ones from all but 1 of the boxes, and weighed 15. Results were as follows: 125.1, 125 4x, 124.9 2x, 124.8, 124.7 3x, 124.6 2x, and 124.4 2x. So there was a total of .7 grains difference in the weights. And I got these from 2 different people at 2 different times, from 2 different states. I dont know if you think that is acceptable, but I didnt think it was too bad! Very acceptable. I've never seen much variation in weight with the partitions. Speer bullets, on the other hand, are horrendous. Guys wanting to give Nosler partitions a bad rap are pretty clueless and them thinking they can pull the wool over our eyes with blanket statements like "2 grains spread" in weight are really reaching. There are a lot of us that have weighed them and came to the same conclusion as you. Pretty damn consistent in weight. Secondly, I've always been able to get excellent accuracy from partitions in many calibers and weights. What I see a lot of times is newbies trying to make excuses as to why their loads suck donkey ballz..
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Donkey ballz is a good one. I heard another the other day...Pissweasel...
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In my estimation a good percentage of people fighting "accuracy" issues don't have a good handle on how straight are their assembled cartridges. If the rifle and scope are in order I'm of the opinion that small variations in charge or bullet weights don't amount to much at distances most people shoot.
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In my estimation a good percentage of people fighting "accuracy" issues don't have a good handle on how straight are their assembled cartridges. If the rifle and scope are in order I'm of the opinion that small variations in charge or bullet weights don't amount to much at distances most people shoot. That I’d agree with. They can be fussier than others if they aren’t started straight.
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In my estimation a good percentage of people fighting "accuracy" issues don't have a good handle on how straight are their assembled cartridges. If the rifle and scope are in order I'm of the opinion that small variations in charge or bullet weights don't amount to much at distances most people shoot. That I’d agree with. They can be fussier than others if they aren’t started straight. Straight ammo is a must. Goes without saying..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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In my estimation a good percentage of people fighting "accuracy" issues don't have a good handle on how straight are their assembled cartridges. If the rifle and scope are in order I'm of the opinion that small variations in charge or bullet weights don't amount to much at distances most people shoot. That I’d agree with. They can be fussier than others if they aren’t started straight. Straight ammo is a must. Goes without saying.. Many folks don't know, but I have been trying to spread the word.
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I just weighed a box, no more than .4 spread. They were all I used until the first great shortage, tried Ballistic tips. They kill deer and pigs just as well and are much cheaper. I weighed 140 grain 7mm partitions.
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The Nosler Partition is perhaps the finest non-dangerous game bullet ever designed. Amazing. I have killed quite a bit of dangerous game with Partitions, and been next to hunting companions who did the same, for over two decades. None of us have had a problem yet--but have seen problems with at least a couple of other "premium" bullets that many consider superior.
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Strictly speaking his comment didn't state anything either way about the dangerous game versions.
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Strictly speaking, no it didn't. But also know hunters who killed quite a few of what would be considered dangerous big game animals with Partitions before such a category existed--including the 200-grain .30.
I also don't see a category for "Partition dangerous big game bullets" on the Nosler website.
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I wasn't really thinking of a formal category.
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Which is part of my point.....
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
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I wasn't really thinking of a formal category. Sometimes you just need to kick back and take notes........
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Some of the weight variation could be from different designs of the same bullet like the .525 ogive 25 caliber bullets compared to the standard ones, which is not a fair comparison. I have also bought odd lots like 101 grain E-Tips from the shooters pro shop. Not sure if they were intentionally that weight or not?
For a long time the Nosler Partition was the dangerous game bullet to use if you were loading soft points. And it is still a good option.
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Weight variation hasn't been a problem for me in terms of accuracy. Straightness is. I have found the Lee collet neck sizer works great with almost no run out. Have used it in three different cals with amazing success.
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Years ago I was fooling with my 338 win mag working up a load for AK moose trip and was trying the 225 Hornady bullet and I couldn't keep 3 in a foot ball so I ordered some of the NEW SPEER GRAND SLAMS. FINALLY GOT THEM TO SHOOT 1 1/2 " AND ABOUT THEN I READ SOMETHING ABOUT THE BULLET WEIGHTS SUCKING DONKEY BALLS{ thank you for the new saying}. I was weighing 225s and getting 10% difference on them. Tried some Sierra and they weighed with in 2 tenths of a grain and shot good... but still not the magic 1" I was wanting. Then I tried Nosler 225 gr Part with 72 gr of R22 and got my inch group. I had loaded 6 more at 74 gr and was going to shoot them just to get my brass back. 4 of them went .362........ I quit looking for my AK load. .2 gr difference on them.
Once again for the sucking donkey balls............... Ray
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Strictly speaking, no it didn't. But also know hunters who killed quite a few of what would be considered dangerous big game animals with Partitions before such a category existed--including the 200-grain .30.
I also don't see a category for "Partition dangerous big game bullets" on the Nosler website. ^^^^ THIS ^^^^ it needed to be posted ,thank you
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