I just look at the intended animal hunted and work backwards most of the time. Since I hunt elk and deer I tend to shoot heavier for caliber bullets since the added BC helps with my crap wind calls and if I’m not using a blazing fast rifle like my 300 RUM Hornady ELD, or similar have been working well.
The 200 grain Accubond is a wicked beast though. It isn’t real high in BC but it ain’t bad. If I could make Noslers ABLR shoot, their 210 would be really danged nice for an added jump in aero’s.. unfortunately I must suck cause I can’t make them reliably print like I can with others.
How times have changed 6-7 yes ago the 200gr AB was the cats ass when it came to it’s at the time high BC..
The 30 cal guys had to do something to compete with the higher bc pills the man bun wearing guys were shooting... One thing I know about the 30 cal magnum shooters is they are a tenacious bunch. It takes a pretty good azz whipping to convince them of something. And then even then, they still keep trying to compete.... The only real way for them to do it is super heavy rifles, muzzle brakes, and 230+gr bullets... They just like getting azz whippings I guess... I gave in. I wear a man bun now...
I was talking far as hunting bullet, competition different animal.. some guys do it with the 308 others do it with the 6xc and some use the 6.5 cm...
Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
I was talking far as hunting bullet, competition different animal.. some guys do it with the 308 others do it with the 6xc and some use the 6.5 cm...
That 200 Accubond is some good as a hunting bullet in my opinion. I like what I see from the Federal 200 TA's or TLR's, as well, but I am not sure they will do anything much better than the Accubond does. It is a ripper in my 300 RUM at 3150. Seen it work well in a 300 Win, 300 Wby and 30-06 as well. I'd actually like to see a 220-225 grain version of the same bullet myself.
No 200 AB’s to be found but a buddy had 1/2 a box of 200 ELd-x’s so I figured what the hell. First load out of the gate was 68.5gr R26 at 2.965”, it shot just under .75” but had a slight ejector mark. Cut it to 66 gr to start working back up and it shot well under 1/2” with velocity of 2840.
I may try to wring a little more velocity out of it at some later time but for now it’s shooting stupid accurate and no animal will know I left maybe 100 FPS on the table.....
I was actually so so on the rifle for my wants and listed it for trade on a few forums out of boredom. Pretty sure it’s staying in my safe now as it’s probably an ideal light weight do everything rifle/caliber as it weighs 8lbs 1/2lbs loaded with the Atacr 4-16.
I used the 212’s a bit over 2700 last year and liked them a lot. Seems like the ELDs are better performing when they hit slower anyhow so I wouldn’t sweat it myself. I put the 200 ELD into water jugs from a 300 Wby at 3050 or so. That bullet just went to pieces up close. They are some kinda accurate though and easy to tune.
The record you mention got beaten recently with another 300 WSM! Technically it is pending....
Arizona benchrest ace Charles Greer drilled a remarkable 2.862″ 10X group, beating all known 1000-Yard HG records on the books. If this record is approved (which is likely), Greer’s .300 WSM can rightfully lay claim to being the most accurate 1000-yard gun in history.
The group is perfectly centered for an amazing score 100-10X. The group was range measured at 2.642 inches. For reference, the 1000-yard X-Ring is 3.00″ in diameter.
Load Details: Norma .300 WSM brass, Alliant Reloder 23 powder, Federal 210M primers, Berger 220gr LR Hybrid bullets at 2800 FPS
The record you mention got beaten recently with another 300 WSM! Technically it is pending....
Arizona benchrest ace Charles Greer drilled a remarkable 2.862″ 10X group, beating all known 1000-Yard HG records on the books. If this record is approved (which is likely), Greer’s .300 WSM can rightfully lay claim to being the most accurate 1000-yard gun in history.
The group is perfectly centered for an amazing score 100-10X. The group was range measured at 2.642 inches. For reference, the 1000-yard X-Ring is 3.00″ in diameter.
Load Details: Norma .300 WSM brass, Alliant Reloder 23 powder, Federal 210M primers, Berger 220gr LR Hybrid bullets at 2800 FPS
That is some awesome shooting right there.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I know a fella that manages 3 ranches in Texas and has to kill allot of management chit. Kills 200+ animals a year. He said the 215 hybrid is the killingest and easiest to tune bullet there is from 100 yards to 1500.
The record you mention got beaten recently with another 300 WSM! Technically it is pending....
Arizona benchrest ace Charles Greer drilled a remarkable 2.862″ 10X group, beating all known 1000-Yard HG records on the books. If this record is approved (which is likely), Greer’s .300 WSM can rightfully lay claim to being the most accurate 1000-yard gun in history.
The group is perfectly centered for an amazing score 100-10X. The group was range measured at 2.642 inches. For reference, the 1000-yard X-Ring is 3.00″ in diameter.
Load Details: Norma .300 WSM brass, Alliant Reloder 23 powder, Federal 210M primers, Berger 220gr LR Hybrid bullets at 2800 FPS
That is some awesome shooting right there.
That is amazing, better than my 400 yard groups. I'm wondering what scope magnification would be required for that accomplishment?
I know a fella that manages 3 ranches in Texas and has to kill allot of management chit. Kills 200+ animals a year. He said the 215 hybrid is the killingest and easiest to tune bullet there is from 100 yards to 1500.
It has worked very well for me the last several years. I've kind of been wanting a 300 prc but when my 300 wsm shoots the 215 hybrid so well at 2800 fps it's hard to go prc.
I've got a bunch of a great lot of 300 wsm Norma brass and a Montana donor in 270 wsm that I was going to do a 6.5 4s or prc on. Now I'm thinking about doing an 8 twist 300 wsm on it or another 7 wsm in an 8 twist. I think 230g atips at 2700 world work.
I like light and deadly. 71gr of Hunter behind a 150gr Nosler Partition Gold from my Kimber Select just seems to kill for me. Over 3200 fps and no recovered bullets yet. George
Dad always said, "Nadie Nacio Ensenado" (No One Was Born Taught)
My 300 wsm is in a Browning A-bolt. I’ve only shot 150gr and 165gr (Hornady Interbonds) with H414. Without a recoil pad, it’s not a rifle I enjoy shooting much and after 8 or 9 shots my vision starts to get blurry. I really need to put a shock absorbing recoil pad on it and I’d shoot it more.
My 300 wsm is in a Browning A-bolt. I’ve only shot 150gr and 165gr (Hornady Interbonds) with H414. Without a recoil pad, it’s not a rifle I enjoy shooting much and after 8 or 9 shots my vision starts to get blurry. I really need to put a shock absorbing recoil pad on it and I’d shoot it more.
I'd say you need to step away from that rifle right now.
The record you mention got beaten recently with another 300 WSM! Technically it is pending....
Arizona benchrest ace Charles Greer drilled a remarkable 2.862″ 10X group, beating all known 1000-Yard HG records on the books. If this record is approved (which is likely), Greer’s .300 WSM can rightfully lay claim to being the most accurate 1000-yard gun in history.
The group is perfectly centered for an amazing score 100-10X. The group was range measured at 2.642 inches. For reference, the 1000-yard X-Ring is 3.00″ in diameter.
Load Details: Norma .300 WSM brass, Alliant Reloder 23 powder, Federal 210M primers, Berger 220gr LR Hybrid bullets at 2800 FPS
The range in Pennsylvania is less than an hour from me. I was there once when I was 12 with the guy that owned the gun shop I hung out at. 40 some years ago! Cool experience! If I remember correctly he was shooting a 7mm Rem Mag at the time. Neatest part was being at the target and putting the red disks on the holes so the shooters knew where they were hitting. You stayed right in the trench under the target and pulled the target down to mark and never interrupted other shooters, just the guy your were spotting for.
It was cold, i had a hot chocolate, a hot dog and some Chuckles. Funny the things you remember… :-)
Personally, I’ve always wanted to see if I could get those 110 gr. ttsx bullets to 4K in my WSM... (not going to try, just a pipe dream)
Once got 3500 fps with 150’s in my 300 WSM while developing loads. Wouldn’t suggest sustaining that. If I could do that in a 24” barrel, i don’t see 4000 fps with a 110 being much of a stretch.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee
Im running the 208 eld-m at 2860 with rl26. I have two elk over 600 with it and both dropped in their tracks, but both were necks to be fair. Neither bullet recovered.
Originally Posted by BrentD
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.