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Hold him out for a bigger bull than those dinks you posted earlier. Those dinks are the equivalent of a 110 inch Whitetail. Let 'em grow.

If he cannot do better than that........just have him shoot a cow.

There are some 350's in zone 7.

Hunt them.

Just sayin'

Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Why the bitterness, Buzz?

You just said you hunted the area I claimed to hunt......

Trying to get some pointers, here.

Originally Posted by BuzzH


I'm not your secretary...you figure it out, what with all your connections and clan living in Douglas and your vast experience in the unit in question.

Unbelievable...



Bitter?...

Pretty excited for my nephew, but not bitter...



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Let the dinks grow.......just shoot a cow.........buzzandpat!

Do you put those in your truck and drive through town?

"There's some good eatin'."

Cow elk are good eating also.

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Let them dinks mature.....buzzandpat/elkhunting!

They are fine.......when you're 20 years old.

Just thump a cow........a waste of a bull tag. I get it, they're close to the road.

https://photos.imageevent.com/buzzandpat/elkhunting/websize/IMG_1386.JPG

We initiated a trophy fee because hunters were killing 110 inch Whitetails on the last day........just to say......"I got my buck!".

Who is Pat?

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Me thinks BuzzY doin' internet searchy.

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Mike, don't you need shoring on the sidewalls?

It's an OSHA requirement for holes that deep.



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Talk about arrested development...


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Oh, no.

You work for government?

You do fit the template.

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Mike, don't you need shoring on the sidewalls?

It's an OSHA requirement for holes that deep.


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Surprised it wasn't buzzandpatandbrad/elkhunting!

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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Oh, no.

You work for government?

You do fit the template.

Originally Posted by smokepole
Mike, don't you need shoring on the sidewalls?

It's an OSHA requirement for holes that deep.



No mike, I dig holes. Difference between you and me is, I do it at work and get paid for it.

PS, when you start accusing Pat of shooting dinks, your ass can be seen from Mars.



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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Hold him out for a bigger bull than those dinks you posted earlier. Those dinks are the equivalent of a 110 inch Whitetail. Let 'em grow.

If he cannot do better than that........just have him shoot a cow.

There are some 350's in zone 7.

Hunt them.

Just sayin'

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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Why the bitterness, Buzz?

You just said you hunted the area I claimed to hunt......

Trying to get some pointers, here.

Originally Posted by BuzzH


I'm not your secretary...you figure it out, what with all your connections and clan living in Douglas and your vast experience in the unit in question.

Unbelievable...



Bitter?...

Pretty excited for my nephew, but not bitter...



I always let my nephews decide what they want to shoot...I buy the tags, they fill them with what they want. You hunt for your reasons, I hunt for mine....and they hunt for theirs. None of your business what anyone else chooses to shoot.

Plus, it was a 100% odds draw with zero points, out nothing other than a NR youth tag fee.

I'll let you in on something...elk aren't my bag, there's just so friggin' many of them, 3 easy to get tags a year, and they're easy to hunt...and they fill a freezer quick.

Every once in a while a decent one gets in the way:

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Drew 2 good tags in the same year, MT and WY. Hunted a real heavy bull I'd scouted in Wyoming on opening day while on my way up to hunt Montana, couldn't turn him up.

Made my way North and killed this bull in MT:

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Went the next day to pack this bull, and on the way glassed a group of 3 bulls while looking around for a mule deer. Bumped into a guy and his young son from Billings that also had the tag, took him back and I took him to this bull. He made a great shot with I believe a 25/06:

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Me with the same bull, the guy was really appreciative for the help, he was set to shoot any bull he saw, never taped it or heard from the guy again, but I'd guess 320ish?

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I turned and burned back to Wyoming to continue looking for the bull I had found scouting, but couldn't turn up opening day. Found him about 400 yards from where I first saw him about a month earlier.

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Probably one of the most miserable weather days I've ever spent elk hunting, below zero, steady Wyoming wind at about 40 mph. One of my best friends had the tag...he made a pretty amazing shot in that wind. Had his choice of 8 bulls, liked this one the best:

Me with his bull:

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Good looking bull, first 4 points are pretty good, sort of fades at the top. Net scored right at 330, with not much for deductions.

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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Let them dinks mature.....buzzandpat/elkhunting!

They are fine.......when you're 20 years old.

Just thump a cow........a waste of a bull tag. I get it, they're close to the road.

https://photos.imageevent.com/buzzandpat/elkhunting/websize/IMG_1386.JPG

We initiated a trophy fee because hunters were killing 110 inch Whitetails on the last day........just to say......"I got my buck!".

Who is Pat?

grin

Originally Posted by BuzzH


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Pat is my wife, who's shot more B&C pronghorn and 6 point bulls than you have...

The most recent 6 point she killed, real cool hunt. Watched the bull bed shortly after daylight, made a great stalk and she shot it right at 100 yards, through the heart.

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Most recent B&C pronghorn she killed:

before:

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After:

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Buzz, aren't you worried that mikey will start posting his elk photos and show you up?

LOL!



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Hey there little mikey wiener. How bout you post up a few photos of all your trophy's Mr "Outfiter"... Reckon you didn't hava enough last week. LOL


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Buzz, aren't you worried that mikey will start posting his elk photos and show you up?

LOL!


Not really, lots of really good elk hunters out there, I've never claimed to be one of them...but know a few that are. I enjoy hunting them, but like to hunt other stuff more, like sheep, pronghorn, whitetails that never see an agricultural field, coues deer, etc.

Wouldn't take much of an elk hunter to show me up.

Where I learned to hunt elk, we shot them when we bumped into them while chasing whitetails...they typically screwed up perfectly good deer hunts.

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I am too modest........as an outfiter.
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Hey there little mikey wiener. How bout you post up a few photos of all your trophy's Mr "Outfiter"... Reckon you didn't hava enough last week. LOL


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You gonna get your nephew a 6 point or better?

Type 1 tag...........or type 2?

Please let us know.

Actually.......that type 2 ain't all bad........technically a bull tag.

Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Zone 7 bull tag 100% draw rate?

Come on, Man.

No preference points.......worse than 120/1 odds, for a bull tag.

Originally Posted by BuzzH

My NR nephew also drew a bull tag this year out there, 100% draw odds with no points. I hope to find him a nice 6 point or better bull to kill...anyway as big as we can find.




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A few that got in they way while chasing public land whitetails in NW Montana:

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Almost worth giving up a half day of whitetail deer hunting to get a velvet spike in November...one of the better eating elk to be had:

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Shot some nice whitetails over the years on this ridge...and probably should have let this bull go, prime time whitetail day, ruined:

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Was OK with shooting this one, was a touch early for the best deer hunting:

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Definitely blew 2 really good days of deer hunting, messing around with getting this bull to the truck. Not tons of whitetail up high, but have shot/seen a few really good ones. Trouble is, there's elk too:

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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
You gonna get your nephew a 6 point or better?

Type 1 tag...........or type 2?

Please let us know.

grin

Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Zone 7 bull tag 100% draw rate?

Come on, Man.

No preference points.......worse than 120/1 odds, for a bull tag.

Originally Posted by BuzzH

My NR nephew also drew a bull tag this year out there, 100% draw odds with no points. I hope to find him a nice 6 point or better bull to kill...anyway as big as we can find.




Finally...who'd you call? Still going to claim that a bull tag wasn't 100% odds?

Yes, 6 point or better...5 point, whatever elk he chooses to kill on the type 2...good for any elk.

Hopefully nothing less than a 5 point...I'll send you the pics if he kills a big 6, I'll CC Rod the photos too.

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Buzz-
Does he have a type 1 or type 2 tag?

Type 2 is 4 pt maximum, one antler.

Check that (100% draw rate, type 2).....would seriously hate anyone to get in trouble.

Carry on. Technically a bull tag, you were correct.

Nice animals......and you're correct......your standards are your own......even concerning dinks.

If they sell those left-over type 2's.......not bad.....but full price dinks.

Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
You gonna get your nephew a 6 point or better?

Type 1 tag...........or type 2?

Please let us know.

grin

Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Zone 7 bull tag 100% draw rate?

Come on, Man.

No preference points.......worse than 120/1 odds, for a bull tag.

Originally Posted by BuzzH

My NR nephew also drew a bull tag this year out there, 100% draw odds with no points. I hope to find him a nice 6 point or better bull to kill...anyway as big as we can find.




Finally...who'd you call?

Yes, 6 point or better...5 point, whatever elk he chooses to kill...

Hopefully nothing less than a 5 point.



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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Buzz-
Does he have a type 1 or type 2 tag?

Type 2 is 4 pt max.

Check that (100% draw rate, type 2).....would seriously hate anyone to get in trouble.

Carry on. Technically a bull tag, you were correct.

Nice animals......and you're correct......your standards are your own......even concerning dinks.

If they sell those left-over type 2's.......not bad.....but dinks.

Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
You gonna get your nephew a 6 point or better?

Type 1 tag...........or type 2?

Please let us know.

grin

Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Zone 7 bull tag 100% draw rate?

Come on, Man.

No preference points.......worse than 120/1 odds, for a bull tag.

Originally Posted by BuzzH

My NR nephew also drew a bull tag this year out there, 100% draw odds with no points. I hope to find him a nice 6 point or better bull to kill...anyway as big as we can find.




Finally...who'd you call?

Yes, 6 point or better...5 point, whatever elk he chooses to kill...

Hopefully nothing less than a 5 point.



Type 2 and its good for any elk...can you read, by chance?

You haven't a clue...for someone so "in the know" with all those kin of yours in Douglas.

You're wrong, yet again...but, that comes as no shock.

If my nephew wasn't left handed, I've have him shoot his bull with a .243...just because.



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