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Well some of you want to tap dance around reality, but I can attest to this. Yes, most families know when their family member is a danger to themselves and to others, yet, you want to keep them powerless to do anything about it, worried more about your 2nd amendment rights. But comes a time we had better adjust to the rise in mental illness and mass shooting, or you WILL lose the hearts and minds of the general public.

The amount of mental illness is on a sharp upswing, but many of you refuse to acknowledge this and make any adjustments.. ultimately it will people just like you who refuse to acknowledge reality, who will be the cause for more and more people willing to let government to strip those rights from people who are NOT mentally ill.

The idea that you would argue against people prone to manic episodes, having limited access to firearms, is pure hardheaded ignorance. You have no idea what you are dealing with.

I know a girl who once jumped off a cruise ship because she believed she could fly, and yet you would oppose taking her right to firearms away until she can convince doctors she is stable? Nobody should have the right to curtail her rights to possess firearms?

Time and time again, we see bipolar people go off and kill people in mass, and you advocate for nothing, no changes? Good luck with that boys.

If someone is so far gone with a mental illness that they become dangerous, what would stop them from knifing someone? Bashing someone's head in with a table lamp? Pushing kids into oncoming traffic? Driving down a crowded sidewalk in a car?

The sad but necessary answer is to lock them up somewhere.

What a deep thinker.

If a person has been adjudicated incompetent to safely possess a firearm they should be locked up.

Sorry, but I fail to see much of a difference............... Except: The manic/bi-polar, schizophrenic, whatever, with a gun you kinda know that your in a dangerous spot, whether you know they're sick or not.

But the same one coming at you from the opposite lane, you have no clue 'til it's over.......


IMHO, with no intent to offend.

There’s a crazy idea.

When the universities ramped up the offerings and enrollment in "behavioral counseling" and "clinical psychology" courses and programs they created potential employees for jobs not available. By coincidence, that development was paralleled by the huge move - pushed hard by the psychiatric "experts" - to change the protocols and not remove from society those who are harmful to themselves and others. The numbers in many mental institutions were depleted and many institutions closed which, in turn, accommodated these new "clinicians" who could treat the mentally ill with drugs and counseling, and etc.

Those who created this problem for their own selfish purposes now want to turn a blind eye to the outcomes they have produced - as well-described here by Barkoff. Look around - see the huge increase in situations not being experienced 40 years ago. Review the recent and ongoing multiple murder and mayhem scenes perpetrated by such sick folks, take a city bus ride some night at 9pm from downtown Seattle to Burien and experience the socially advanced on the bus, look at the tent encampments and human detritus roaming in numerous cities, and that is not the full spread of the outcomes.

This is the new/improved mental health reality foisted upon you by the learned experts - merely self-serving and needy/greedy assumed "professionals". Who is going to fix this bad one?

Don't fail to mention the government's complicity. They were more than willing to do away with the costly maintenance of mental institutions in favor of psychotropics. Less money put into mental health means more money in their pockets. The tax payer only sees taxes increase.

What Barkoff and others fail to realize is that it's already against the law for mentally ill folks to own or otherwise access guns.

If the general thought process of California is represented in this thread I can see why they so embrace the government they have.

Red flag laws. So if you have a flaming liberal for kin that wants everyone to give their guns up and decides to claim you have a mental illness then you lose your guns just where is the justice in that?

From what I have seen of mental illness. Therapy does not work 90 percent of the time. Drugs work until they quit taking them. They quit taking them because they make them feel weird. Just like most of don't like taking drugs because they make us feel weird. The problem arises when they are so mentally ill they can't function without the drugs that make them feel weird. Its a issue and it is very discouraging that you cannot get help for them. Does that mean they shouldn't have a right to protect themselves. No but each case is different some should not have access to weapons some are just fine. I don't have a answer to the question but there is a need for hospitals for some of these people. Jail is not the answer unless they have committed a major crime. Often they are locked up for small crimes because families don't know what to do with them.

Had a guy for a few months at work before he wigged out.

Full blown schizophrenia, complete bat [bleep] crazy.

He legally drove a car to work every day, but he couldn’t own a gun I thought that was a little backwards.

But I’m not scared of guns.

Are we talking about bipolar or is it schizophrenia. The girl this thread was predicated on sounds completely out of touch with reality at least at times. My first mother in law was bi-polar and very manipulative and difficult to deal with. I guess there are degrees of it but I did not know that bi-polar made you lose touch with reality.

]] WHO IS THE DUMB ASZ HERE??


bARKOF i FEEL FOR YOU MAN not an easy life for you or her

I mentioned this difference earlier. For years, the tern "bi polar" normally was used to designate the manic/depressive syndrome - the "high/low" fluctuation manifested in those who had a difficult time maintaining a reasonable level of psychological stability and comfort - who tended to be overly active/occupied for a while and then rather suddenly swing to a depressed state. Difficult way to live and sometimes more than exasperating for the spouse/family. Normally this syndrome is not the deep psychosis that causes behavior dangerous to others, and some drugs work very well in aiding control and stability for these folks.

When psychotic conditions deepen into schizophrenia, multiple personalities, psychotic neurosis and derangement to the point of sociopathic threat, etc. the drug control is much more complicated and variable, and most of the so-called "counseling" is practically useless.

I take way longer to get ready....