Although belonging to a union is not for me, I have no problem with a union if it's members prefer an average wage, rather than earn a wage based on each of their own merits, work ethic and skills.
It's when unionization becomes a form of labor extortion that I have the issue. Look at most of your public sector unions and you'll see a prime example. Most cities could declare bankruptcy due to the pension liabilities they accumulated in efforts to appease the unions every time they threatened to strike.
Personal observation, ...there are countless nonunion companies nationwide that for some reason their employees aren't interested in voting for union representation.
When employees of a company do show serious interest in voting for labor union representation maybe that company needs to take a real hard serious look inward as to why...
Unions became a lucrative, powerful business and stopped giving a damn about people, only money. Same as the big corporations they were formed to fight.
Public sector unions should never have been allowed.
I often wonder why no one can form a self contained union. Essentially what you suggest, getting together and presenting a united front. Unions are about a "brotherhood" of workers in a similar situation, being united for strength.
That would be about the best situation possible. Keeping the thugs at bay.
Who in their right mind would start vandalizing stuff in today's anti-union climate? Either it's some one very out of touch. Someone who did it for goggles or just to stir the pot. Third party? Or, unlikely? Someone trying to discredit the union?
Just seems weird, especially this early in the process.
You aren't in 1960's Chitcago.
You can if State law covers it. We did it at our PD for a number of years. What killed our Union is we could not find a lawyer that wanted to advise us and help in negotiating. We didn't pay enough for a lawyer to want the job. In the end, we were just too small of a union unless we really raised our dues to get an attorney interested.
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Man, it's a crazy world. Not sure of the time period, maybe a few months ago-maybe less, these same people were God fearing, non-Union, tax paying pillars of the community. Now look what they have become, over night.
Joken2, ever work for a big anti union outfit? They have the brainwashing/threats down pat.
I laugh at people on both sides of this topic, both sides have skeletons the size of Blue Whales and lie like hell.
Union BS is infamous. They run the same trite lines all the time.
So do companies.
"Unions just want part of your pay. (In a way, mostly) You don't want a union between us and you. It's better if we can just sit down and talk. If a union comes in, we will (they might say, might) close."
All company lines. All sorta true. All designed to get a no vote. Just like Dem talking points, always used. Even when not true.
A current coworker showed me a slick video made about his former employer. It showed the facilities and the employees. Told how dam great the employees were. "The best in the world."
After I saw it, I ask "Was there a union push then"?
Of course there was.
It failed.
About 2 years later, they closed. Went to Mexico. Left "The best employees in the world" out of work.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Our local was sold to a corporation. They’ve pretty much destroyed the quality of care and ran off every single good MD in every department. Most departments anywhere between 75%-100% of the doctors on staff have left. Anyone with any sense drives an hour East or North where there’s still good care.
The Magic Negroes lasting legacy. POS should get cancer of the Chunt and die painfully slow.
I’ve been a union plumber for almost 50 years, we have gone on strike a few times. It never did much good. Striking nurses, I don’t agree with that.
Your disagreement with striking nurses is understandable - but you can join the "disagree" line with zillions of other folks who don't like strikes by unions in other fields. Seems like such public disagreement makes no difference across the board. Some of the striking union folks disagree with their own strikes - but they join the strike.. There is a theme in all of this.
I’ve been a union plumber for almost 50 years, we have gone on strike a few times. It never did much good. Striking nurses, I don’t agree with that.
Your disagreement with striking nurses is understandable - but you can join the "disagree" line with zillions of other folks who don't like strikes by unions in other fields. Seems like such public disagreement makes no difference across the board. Some of the striking union folks disagree with their own strikes - but they join the strike.. There is a theme in all of this.
Are you a union guy?
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They were started by Organized Crime and they are still run by Organized Crime.
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