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If I lived out west I would kill every one of em encountered.
Probably aint even denting the population.
Every one you kill probably 10 others anyways...
That one you kill might have been the one biting a human, dog, horse, livestock.
I can see how some cut down the chance and probability by a no mercy policy on em.
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These western rattlers look very much like bull snakes. We have lots of bulls, too. They're harmless but seem like they're more belligerent than the rattlers. They vary in color but most I've seen here look something like this. ![[Linked Image from inherpatlas.org]](https://www.inherpatlas.org/media/1412.jpg)
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These western rattlers look very much like bull snakes. We have lots of bulls, too. They're harmless but seem like they're more belligerent than the rattlers. They vary in color but most I've seen here look something like this. I suspect most people kill every snake they see and don't worry too much about identifying them.
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That one you kill might have been the one biting a human, dog, horse, livestock.
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This is often the rationale used. Under that same line of thought I should pull over every stupid driver I see and kill them. They do a LOT more damage than snakes... Plus you'd have the added advantage of being able to hear them scream.
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These western rattlers look very much like bull snakes. We have lots of bulls, too. They're harmless but seem like they're more belligerent than the rattlers. They vary in color but most I've seen here look something like this. I suspect most people kill every snake they see and don't worry too much about identifying them. Snakes eat a lot of rodents that do much more damage than the snakes do.
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We have the prairie rattler out east mostly .They are always nasty. Only one I ever ran into that was worse was a sidewinder in the Nevada desert.
In Colorado there is season on rattle snakes
A 6-7 ft bull snake can give you the scare pretty fast though
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The difference between a western and a prairie is like the difference between a Rocky Mtn elk and a Roosevelt. Same species with local variations.
Idaho also has a snake season - Jan 1 through Dec 31. They seem to be a bit timid but I've been told that their venom is pretty potent. Usually they'll just slither away but this one coiled and stood his ground.
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This is a Western that I killed at least 30 years ago. It's been on my wall all that time. The head fell apart years ago. It was 52" long. It's pretty faded now and very brittle. I guess I need to get a fresh one one of these days. I skinned it and tacked it down to a board flesh side up then buried it in borax for a week to dry it. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Wd35PRZ.jpg)
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In New Mexico, on an Explorer Scout trip to Phillmout Ranch, a few of the boys were teasing a rattler with a stick.
I stayed way back. That's what leaders do...
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Rattlesnake Bill Watson, got his nickname , when he picked up a rattler instead of his lunch sausage.
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We run across our share of rattlers down here, I only ever remember one being aggressive and its was only a foot long. I've been struck once, but I literally had stepped on it while chasing a turkey in a creek bottom.
Copperheads have quite the attitude where I'm at.
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I think rattlers are neat, but antivenom is like 18 grand. I had snake gaiters on once, and they worked. But the SOB bit "me" above the boot line and I was four miles on foot -- so I kill every rattler I'm aware of. Years ago when moving our pup was bitten by a rattlesnake in New Mexico at a rest stop. Took her to a vet in Santa Rosa and he had me go to the pharmacy for 3 vials of anti-venom. $15 a vial at that time. Saved the pup's life. Some species of rattlesnake are protected here. I'd buy some to keep on hand for that price. If you ever run across a source like that again, let me know. I don't think the milkers are making the money. Most can't afford to go to the ER for a bite, while at the same can't afford not to. Check it out: https://thepreachersword.com/2014/01/29/the-high-cost-of-a-deadly-snake-bite/
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We run across our share of rattlers down here, I only ever remember one being aggressive and its was only a foot long. I've been struck once, but I literally had stepped on it while chasing a turkey in a creek bottom.
Copperheads have quite the attitude where I'm at. That's been my experience with Eastern Timbers. They get big and scary, but most are calm. I almost stepped on one sunning. It never buzzed. Even when I picked up the warm snake and bagged it, it was pretty mellow. There aren't many animals in the forest or ponds that are like that. However, the babies tend to be more defensive.
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Do they not rattle? Or are you like me and just can't hear it?
Was crawling under a fence near Hardy Arkansas a few years back when my son urgently said "STOP"!
The fence had grown up in trees and there was a timber rattler buzzing for all he was worth about 2 feet from my head in the roots of a tree. I could see his tail blurring. My son could hear it from 12-15 feet away. I didn't hear it at all... How did you get out if that? Slowly, most likely.
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Snakes kill about 5 people a year in the US
Dogs kill about 40 people a year.
If you are serious about saving lives then instead of killing snakes kill your neighbors pitbull , I did.
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For me................. rattle snakes die.... uncle bit, nearly died, granddad lost several dogs, BIL nearly lost one last month, 4 doses of antivenom($2400)..........
Ecologically sound???? not worried about it much, I think Florida has enough 'other snakes' to fill in the void.............
Feel pretty much the same way about moccasins and copperheads, coral snakes get a pass though..... No kidding. Florida water moccasins are a thing. I've seen some yuge ones around Lake Okeechobee.
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I’ve killed a lot of rattlesnakes. And will continue to. I care not one lick who it triggers. Like shooting gophers. Some panties get wadded over that too.
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There's only 2 kinds of snakes, if it dosen't rattle, it's a cobra.
(I don't like snakes}
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I’ve killed a lot of rattlesnakes. And will continue to. I care not one lick who it triggers. Like shooting gophers. Some panties get wadded over that too.
You mean ground squirrel? This is a Gopher. I lot of western sharp shooters seem to confuse the two. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher
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There's only 2 kinds of snakes, if it dosen't rattle, it's a cobra.
(I don't like snakes} Snakes do bother a lot of people. Spiders seem to bring about the same response.
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