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Campfire Sage
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Federal employees and active duty personnel have not had to get it.
I don’t see how an employer can force an untested vaccine on anyone.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Local hospital here where my wife and son both work.... employees who didn't want to take the vaccine were being paid $200 to take it.
Of course I live in a state where the governMENTAL attitude is EVERYONE gets a trophy.
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Campfire Kahuna
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There is no legal question that they can make it a condition of employment. Anyone can sue anyone for anything, so I'm sure lawsuits might come. They will all spend a lot of money failing if they do file lawsuits. Lawyers will let them throw good money after a bad cause. Just asking. Are you an attorney with experience in employment cases? Is there case precedence? Nope, I'm not an attorney. I have been involved with some transactions over the past 6 months where this question has come up. Teams of lawyers from Seattle, to New York to Miami to Dallas said there is no legal question here. I would imagine that a health care institution has even further weight to make a case. That is my supposition, because the above I referemced had to do with employment law, but not Healthcare employment. I'm not standing in Methodists corner, just stating what I know. This absolutely won't fly legally.
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Campfire Regular
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Its now illegal in texas for any business to require an vaccine or vac passport.
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Campfire Tracker
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Campfire Tracker
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I can't see how they can make it a condition of employment if you are already signed on and working. After the fact. Like "ex post facto".
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Campfire Tracker
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And some attorneys are salivating.......
Rightly so.
Osky
A woman's heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth and I can find no sign on it.
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Campfire Ranger
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This absolutely won't fly legally.
10 Billion in revenue, over 22,000 employees. I doubt they have a legal team, so hopefully somebody can pass your pronouncement on to Marc Bloom.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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This absolutely won't fly legally.
10 Billion in revenue, over 22,000 employees. I doubt they have a legal team, so hopefully somebody can pass your pronouncement on to Marc Bloom. You're invited to kiss my ass.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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Its now illegal in texas for any business to require an vaccine or vac passport. For customers; doesn’t apply to employees. This absolutely won't fly legally.
10 Billion in revenue, over 22,000 employees. I doubt they have a legal team, so hopefully somebody can pass your pronouncement on to Marc Bloom. You're invited to kiss my ass. If it’s as well informed as the rest of ya, I’ll politely decline. While I don’t agree with the policy, to state that it “absolutely won’t fly legally” is rather naive. Well paid - and well informed - attorneys on both sides have reviewed it. Enough of them think it will stand that it was made policy.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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Its now illegal in texas for any business to require an vaccine or vac passport. For customers; doesn’t apply to employees. This absolutely won't fly legally.
10 Billion in revenue, over 22,000 employees. I doubt they have a legal team, so hopefully somebody can pass your pronouncement on to Marc Bloom. You're invited to kiss my ass. If it’s as well informed as the rest of ya, I’ll politely decline. While I don’t agree with the policy, to state that it “absolutely won’t fly legally” is rather naive. Well paid - and well informed - attorneys on both sides have reviewed it. Enough of them think it will stand that it was made policy. You're full of shixt.
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Campfire Ranger
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You’re suggesting a policy such as this for an organization with over 20k employees wasn’t reviewed extensively by a legal team?
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Campfire Sage
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Campfire Sage
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Its now illegal in texas for any business to require an vaccine or vac passport. Florida, too.
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Campfire Sage
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Campfire Sage
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And some attorneys are salivating.......
Rightly so.
Osky Anyone who gets vaxxed due to employer coercion has standing to sue if injured by it. It won't take long for these lawsuits to start piling up, then these policies will go away on their own.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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You’re suggesting a policy such as this for an organization with over 20k employees wasn’t reviewed extensively by a legal team? I'm not suggesting anything. I'm saying you're a fu c king idiot.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Campfire 'Bwana
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You’re suggesting a policy such as this for an organization with over 20k employees wasn’t reviewed extensively by a legal team? Their so called legal team sucks, because the emoyees will win this suite. There is no legal precedent to force an unapproved vaccine on employees
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Campfire Ranger
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Federal employees and active duty personnel have not had to get it.
I don’t see how an employer can force an untested vaccine on anyone. as of last month, the military was restricting leave and travel for those who refused vaccinations. maybe changed
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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You’re suggesting a policy such as this for an organization with over 20k employees wasn’t reviewed extensively by a legal team? I'm not suggesting anything. I'm saying you're a fu c king idiot. Been called far worse by far better. When you’ve got nothing, let the name calling begin. Carry on.
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Campfire Ranger
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You’re suggesting a policy such as this for an organization with over 20k employees wasn’t reviewed extensively by a legal team? Their so called legal team socks, because the emoyees will win this suite. There is no legal precedent to force an unapproved vaccine on employees They might. They might not. Many think the Supreme Court will decide.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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You’re suggesting a policy such as this for an organization with over 20k employees wasn’t reviewed extensively by a legal team? I'm not suggesting anything. I'm saying you're a fu c king idiot. Been called far worse by far better. When you’ve got nothing, let the name calling begin. Carry on. Do your own research, retard.
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