|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434 |
If a grandpa had more money than brains and wanted to build a bolt action in 25-35 for his young grandson, what parent rifle, receiver, etc. should he look for? I know its stupid, but you are talking to the one that loves all the odd ball stuff.....and who, coincidentally, had no problem finding ammo because no one ever buys what i shoot...lol....thanks guys.
Last edited by 101guns; 06/12/21.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,305
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,305 |
forget the bolt action rifle take a Ruger # 1 and rebarrel rifle to 25 -35 rifle , the #1 will always still have value ,if you look real hard and ask on the 24 hr campfire free ads you may fine a Ruger #1 25 -35 ? good luck ,Pete53
LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434 |
Thanks Pete. I will have to cut the stock down on whatever gun I choose. I was thinking of just getting a TC Contender in the caliber, but hope to find something more in line with a small Model 7 size. Appreciate your advice and I would love to have that gun in a No. 1 for me. Thanks again
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 22,938 Likes: 16
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 22,938 Likes: 16 |
you must really dislike that kid......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,191
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,191 |
you must really dislike that kid...... Haha 😂😂
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,791 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,791 Likes: 1 |
I had a Marlin 336 rebarreled to .25-35.. Fun gun..
Molon Labe
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,079 Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,079 Likes: 1 |
Rem 788 in 30-30, you could really spruce up a Sav 340 or one of the clones, Springfield, Hiawatha and there are a couple others. I saw a beautiful Mannlicher stocked 340 a number of years ago, some even came with a butter knife bolt handle from the factory.
Forgot the Win Model 54 came in 30-30 also and the Rem Model 30 came on 25&30 Rem a rimless version of the 30-30/25-35
Last edited by erich; 06/12/21.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
Make mine a Minaska
Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,990 Likes: 1
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,990 Likes: 1 |
There's some good choices above, and I do like the 25-35 Cal. your looking at. When my boys were young and starting out, yeah we all start them out on .22 cal rifles, naturally, and then graduate to what your talking about. I went with a few savage .17 cal rifles, and graduated from there to a 25-20 Winchester model 1892,Lever action, loading one shot at a time, and again graduating from there. Using Bolt actions also, trying to show them the Difference, and letting them find their way and compare accordingly. My father in Law,(Grandpa), gave them a Harrington and Richardson, .22 cal. rifle for Christmas one year, as I gave them a Winchester Model 67 bolt action .22 the next year! One is a Sniper in the U.S.M.C., and the other hunts all over the Country for Big Game! You have several choices, Good Luck!
I Learned a long time ago to Separate My Want's from My Needs!
A man's Gotta Do What a Man's Gotta Do!
Know Thy Self!
TRUMP DID WIN!!!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,836 Likes: 6
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,836 Likes: 6 |
This grandpa bought his grandson a 7.62x39 because 6.5 Grendel youth models weren’t anywhere to be found then. Three bucks down in three years, including a 200lb one. He’s covered until he grows a bit, maybe even longer. Still, a Grendel is my idea of a near-perfect rifle for kids, especially where .223 isn’t legal like VA.
What fresh Hell is this?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,063
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,063 |
I went to Gunbroker and searched bolt action rifles in .30-30. A Winchester 54 in .30 WCF is for sale. No bids @ $2600. Enjoy
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,153
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,153 |
I like the .25-35 Contender option! In fact I liked it so much that I had Match Grade Machine make me one for my G2! Cheaper than any first class conversionof a really nice bolt action, and he can add barrels later to HIS taste!
Mine has 4 barrels presently: .22 LR match chamber, .357 Magnum "Super 16," .25-35 WCF, and a .410 3" "Magnumb" shotgun. All but the Super 16 are customs from MGM. (The latest "Rifle" has an article on MGM).
A friend of mine used to have a beautiful custom rifle in .25-35 on an 1898 Krag action. It was, however, a single shot. Happens he liked BASS (Bolt Action Single Shot) rifles just fine. There was one in .22 WCF Improved (ever see one of those?) in a recent issue of "Handloader"--drool worthy if you like that sort of thing. I do.).
Keep in mind that a .25-35 with lighter, better designed .257 bullets that have points is a whole different critter than the old timers with heavy, flatnose bullets.
Last edited by Mesa; 06/12/21.
Was Mike Armstrong. Got logged off; couldn't log back on. RE-registered my old call sign, Mesa. FNG. Again. Mike Armstrong
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 142
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 142 |
I do like the idea of a "Lee Speed" in .25-35. If you have more money than brains.......try a Krag in .25-35. Sedgley made them work.
Last edited by texasjohn; 06/12/21.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,153
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,153 |
texasjohn, that's a beaut!
Was Mike Armstrong. Got logged off; couldn't log back on. RE-registered my old call sign, Mesa. FNG. Again. Mike Armstrong
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 142
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 142 |
I happen to like "Sedgleys". I also have a Lee Speed that I admire. I think the .25-35 is a wonderful old round and I like to see a Grandpa thinking outside the box on such a project. The Contender option would be the easiest............ John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,435 Likes: 1
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,435 Likes: 1 |
The Ruger #1 or less costly #3 seems an excellent solution. I'd recommend too! But as the courtroom objection goes... "Nonresponsive to the question!" Already mentioned above, several bolt rifles. All good candidates particularly as already chambered for the same genre rimmed spec'd shell. A giant leap forward as factory rimmed cartridge designed. Conversions to rimmed, not just a matter of Christmas tree fashion, hanging a barrel and some 'ornament' elements on a centerfire receiver! The correctly chambered rimmed round rifle, far better than the potential mess, headache & $$$ of modifying bolt and magazine assembly!* My choice would be the Win 54* first yet, as noted, both pricey and moreover potentially destroying collector value IF original! Even where not, too often seeking the suckers. Typically offered with high prices, seeking uninformed! The Rem 788 also about as good choice and the Win. Much later production, not genuinely "collectible". Also all other than Model 54 Win, "Push Feed" if that makes a difference. (My belief shouldn't make any.) The Savage model 340 mentioned, seeming another excellent alternative and probably the least expensive variant of the several discussed. My sole addition, the Savage/Springfield rifle Models 40 or deluxe version Model 45. Any of these several Savages, mediocre trigger pull at best. Without creative work, learn to live with them. I have all this Thread-mentioned rifles in original 30-30 Win chambering, excepting the Model 340. I speak from "user"/design observer, rather than gunsmith experience.
*Factoid: *The Model 54, Winchester in 30 WCF chambering, actually designed & produced with unique receiver & other components specifically for that chambering! Great quality, but some replacement parts...! Potential issue!
Good luck & just my take. John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434 |
Wow...love the pics..As practical as synthetic can be, the warmth of wood can't be beat for me. All good suggestions, but I am stuck on this caliber and the limitations/costs that come with it. Rebarreling a Marlin 336Y as was mentioned somewhere is attractive too. Thanks again.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,209
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,209 |
To me you couldn't get much nicer than a good 1885 HiWall in 25-35.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,836 Likes: 6
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,836 Likes: 6 |
One criterion I used when choosing a rifle for my grandson was the availability of ammo if Grandpa should suddenly go under, or otherwise be unable to provide it. I bought 100 rounds of hunting ammo, mounted a scope on a rail for maximum adjustability, and turned over a ready-to-hunt package to him.
Not knocking the OP’s choice, just being practical because stuff happens.
What fresh Hell is this?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 434 |
Good point....I started buying the Hornady Leverevolution ammo for the caliber last fall. Going to get some dies too. Should soon have some brass from a friend too. I have used Superior Ammo and like their work when I get in a bind. I am the one who hunts exclusively with the 257 Bob, 7-30 Waters, 7x57, 264 Win, 308 Norma, 300 H&H, 6 mm, 6.5 Jap, 38-55, 250 Savage., 35 Whelen, and some of the Ackleys. Been hoarding ammo for years. But you are right, he wont find the 25-35 at Walmart or the local convenience store. Luckily, I got the hooks in the son-in-law when I gave him the 28 ga. double for his first Christmas with us. I think he will pick up the torch when I'm gone. Talking to the kids about the old calibers and why we want to keep them alive sure was fun. They can carry on intelligent conversations with most everyone at the camp from their age to mine.
P.S. In the ammo shortage of late, I can find more ammo than I expected in stores around the state. No one else (or very few) is shooting it.
|
|
|
|
676 members (160user, 1beaver_shooter, 12344mag, 10ring1, 10gaugemag, 06hunter59, 72 invisible),
2,661
guests, and
1,568
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,610
Posts18,492,482
Members73,972
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|