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Good links. American Woke-ists are fond of comparing the US to European nations, because they're "developed" and so are we... but European nations differ from the New World (Americas) markedly in many respects, not the least of which is that they are ethnically homogeneous. When we compare the numbers for nations in the Americas the U.S. looks a heck of a lot better than most of our neighbors. As always good post Doc. Our only neighbor remotely like the USA is Canada
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There is so much hilarious content in there that I don't know where to start.
"The state mandate for basic police training was slashed by more than 25 percent, from 22 weeks to 16 weeks to total 650 hours."
OP, you are obviously well researched in this, are the cops issued a car and sent out on their own at 22 weeks or are they assigned to a Field Training Officer?
"Enforcement of victimless crimes is a major factor in creating unnecessary police interactions which fuels violence."
Good point. Let's just stop enforcing victimless crimes and violence will go down. Did they define a victimless crime OP?
"According to the report, the majority of the world’s police forces carry firearms, but no developed nation uses them against their citizens as often as officers in the US – and disproportionately against African-Americans, compared with the percentage of the population they represent."
OP, do our police use violence against African Americans at a rate that is inconsistent with African American's rate of involvement in violent crime?
While it may be easy for some to write off police killings as a problem of American gun culture, this is not major factor. According to the report, Finland has one the highest gun-ownership rates in Europe, with around 32 civilian firearms per 100 people – but incidents of police shooting civilians are extremely rare.
What is Finland's gun crime rate measured against cop's use of guns against them OP?
The OP is goddam dumb. A lot of people are. With that said, unless police training has changed over the past few decades, it can be improved upon.
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The problem is not the police officers training.
The problem is that we have a justice system that releases violent criminals back into society at the cyclic rate. Until that issue is addressed, things aren't going to get better.
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The big problem is if you break the law your wrong in every way don't break laws don't have to deal with the big bad meanies in uniform
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The issue is some people need to place blame onto something or someone. Their lack of responsibility and ownership for actions is astonishing.
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Good links. American Woke-ists are fond of comparing the US to European nations, because they're "developed" and so are we... but European nations differ from the New World (Americas) markedly in many respects, not the least of which is that they are ethnically homogeneous. When we compare the numbers for nations in the Americas the U.S. looks a heck of a lot better than most of our neighbors. As always good post Doc. Our only neighbor remotely like the USA is Canada Canada is not remotely like the us when it comes to violent crime, illegal immigration and demographics Mr Rainbow cape
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Good links. American Woke-ists are fond of comparing the US to European nations, because they're "developed" and so are we... but European nations differ from the New World (Americas) markedly in many respects, not the least of which is that they are ethnically homogeneous. When we compare the numbers for nations in the Americas the U.S. looks a heck of a lot better than most of our neighbors. As always good post Doc. Our only neighbor remotely like the USA is Canada Canada is not remotely like the us when it comes to violent crime, illegal immigration and demographics Mr Rainbow cape When you look at Canada's police use of firearms on citizens rate vs their intentional homicide rate, we are very comparable.
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Good links. American Woke-ists are fond of comparing the US to European nations, because they're "developed" and so are we... but European nations differ from the New World (Americas) markedly in many respects, not the least of which is that they are ethnically homogeneous. When we compare the numbers for nations in the Americas the U.S. looks a heck of a lot better than most of our neighbors. As always good post Doc. Our only neighbor remotely like the USA is Canada Canada is not remotely like the us when it comes to violent crime, illegal immigration and demographics Mr Rainbow cape You poor fool
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How about more trading for the coloreds, so they won’t commit 50% of the crime.
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What line of work are you in gay blade? Good links. American Woke-ists are fond of comparing the US to European nations, because they're "developed" and so are we... but European nations differ from the New World (Americas) markedly in many respects, not the least of which is that they are ethnically homogeneous. When we compare the numbers for nations in the Americas the U.S. looks a heck of a lot better than most of our neighbors. As always good post Doc. Our only neighbor remotely like the USA is Canada Canada is not remotely like the us when it comes to violent crime, illegal immigration and demographics Mr Rainbow cape You poor fool
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This The problem is not the police officers training.
The problem is that we have a justice system that releases violent criminals back into society at the cyclic rate.
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How about more training for the coloreds, so they won’t commit 50% of the crime. Yep, its something they never learned at home.
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If US cops trained more, they'd kill more. Hahaha. Fo sho bro.
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Maybe someone should start a go-fund-me account to send urbaneruralite through the academy for some "training" - that she/he would not likely ever forget.
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If US cops trained more, they'd kill more. Fewer misses? 😉
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I see I have to add another moron to the ignore list.
Dont want to worry about getting shot by a cop then dont break the law in the first place And when the laws are unjust? System's broken. Law enforcement just protects criminals from good people nowadays. Defund 'em and we'll sort it out in short order.
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Defund the Police? What so cities can be more like Mogadishu, likes they got a good start.
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I see I have to add another moron to the ignore list.
Dont want to worry about getting shot by a cop then dont break the law in the first place ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^AND dont resist arrest My son went through the Phoenix Police Academy............They invited family down for a couple different events..............I was impressed at the amount of training they got.....I gained a lot of respect for them. That said I know a lot of small town and county sheriff depts dont get the better training though.
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Our only neighbor remotely like the USA is Canada Canada's population is only 3.5% Black and well over 1/3 of them live in Toronto. Maybe there is a good rational reason U.S. police shoot Blacks at a higher percentage than they do Whites? Haven't Blacks proven themselves more homicidal than Whites? How do U.S. Whites stack up against European Whites as to homicide rates? Lets leave suicide out of it.
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Perhaps a better thread title would be "U.S. media trains less, lies more".
The biggest problem our country has is not systemic racism, it's systemic stupidity.
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