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As far as Im aware Derek is the only MP speaking out. I really feel for these doctors. They are trying to do the right thing, and getting smeared for it. I do believe a reckoning is coming, and it cant come soon enough as far as Im concerned. Like the 2nd doctor says, how many people have died needlessly ?? A must watch video for anyone interested in the truth, or younger people thinking about taking the vaccine.

https://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/covid-19-canada-responds/episodes/66396178/

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I just had my second Moderna shot and I was informed yesterday that I died.

Who knew?


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Originally Posted by saddlegun
I just had my second Moderna shot and I was informed yesterday that I died.

Who knew?


Personally Im glad you didnt. Long term effects might be a different story.

This doctors credentials are beyond reproach. He's one of the best in the world and certainly not a conspiracy theorist, or anti vaxxer. His opinions should be taken seriously.

https://rumble.com/vhp8e1-massive-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html

This fellow is an interesting guy. I admittedly dont know much about him, other than he is a Canadian with what seems to be a first class education.
https://rumble.com/vishfj-dr.-roger-hodkinson-explains-risks-of-covid-vaccines-side-effects.html

These are just two examples of thousands out there. Are they right ?? Thats a question only time will answer, but one things for sure; they are/were right about HQ and ivermectin. We have peer reviewed science that proves it. Yet the government is still trying to suppress and censor that information and are not allowing doctors to use these drugs, even when people are dying from covid. Those are the people you are trusting....

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I'm really happy saddlecum got his second shot, hoping for the best.

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When are you going to stop flogging this horse. Surely it must by dead by now.

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Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
When are you going to stop flogging this horse. Surely it must by dead by now.

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I agree it should be, but guess what, were still locked down. Thats two whole years many businesses have lost. Lots of them no longer exist. Even though over 70% of the residents in the Territory have been vaccinated. And to top it all off we are now having our worst outbreak to date. Communities are shutting down, no new people allowed in. A big construction company just got kicked out of a community up north because the FN band is terrified of covid even though they were the first to get the vaccine. Meanwhile the US is putting it behind them. No unfortunately the horse isnt dead yet. Our emergency measures were extended for another 3-months so its not likely to end soon. What did the vaccine get us ?? We were told once 70% were vaccinated life would go back to normal. That was obviously a lie. From where Im sitting the vaccine made no difference at all.

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Originally Posted by 673
I'm really happy saddlecum got his second shot, hoping for the best.


Have you ever noticed how many of these guys resort to childish name calling, but have nothing intelligent to say beyond this?

It reminds me of being 8 years old and trading zingers at recess in elementary school.
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
When are you going to stop flogging this horse. Surely it must by dead by now.

Jim


I agree it should be, but guess what, were still locked down. Thats two whole years many businesses have lost. Lots of them no longer exist. Even though over 70% of the residents in the Territory have been vaccinated. And to top it all off we are now having our worst outbreak to date. Communities are shutting down, no new people allowed in. A big construction company just got kicked out of a community up north because the FN band is terrified of covid even though they were the first to get the vaccine. Meanwhile the US is putting it behind them. No unfortunately the horse isnt dead yet. Our emergency measures were extended for another 3-months so its not likely to end soon. What did the vaccine get us ?? We were told once 70% were vaccinated life would go back to normal. That was obviously a lie. From where Im sitting the vaccine made no difference at all.


Maybe yes, maybe no. Time will tell.


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Yukoner, I would like to know what Texas and a few other States are doing differently then us up here.
Why is it that they can be back to some what normal living again.

is it perhaps the weather, more sunshine ?
What ever it is, we need to import some of it, or all of it.

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Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
When are you going to stop flogging this horse. Surely it must by dead by now.

Jim

Unfortunately, it's the only thing he does.


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It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.

After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.

This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.

As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.

For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.

The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.

And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.


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Originally Posted by saddlegun
It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.

After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.

This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.

As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.

For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.

The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.

And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.


Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science...

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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by saddlegun
It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.

After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.

This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.

As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.

For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.

The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.

And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.


Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science...

Yup. A lot of nonsense, indeed. More of the leftist strategy to label anybody with views that differ from their own as “extremists.” There’s always another side to the coin.

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It is refreshing to see that the Socialist Saddlebum is just as stupid on Canadian threads as American ones. I’m curious Saddlebum. Do you wear your I Love Treadau t shirt outside of the house?

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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by saddlegun
It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.

After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.

This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.

As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.

For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.

The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.

And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.


Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science...


Can you name 10 such doctors from those "tens of thousands" ?

And Derek Sloan is indeed an ostracized ex-conservative who panders to his followers with sensationalist drivel.

And these 3 doctors are in a small minority in Canada. There peers do not agree with them.

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Originally Posted by Springcove
It is refreshing to see that the liberal Saddlebum is just as stupid on Canadian threads as American ones. I’m curious Saddlebum. Do you wear your I Love Treadau t shirt outside of the house?


Do you notice how this little man also resorts to childish name-calling, but has nothing intelligent to say beyond this? Very much like 673.

And, since I am a gun owner and have published many positive posts about firearms, why would anybody believe that I am a socialist, a communist, a leftist, a trudeau lover, or any of these other ridiculous accusations?

Really, it is very simple.

I simply do not buy the B.S. that the anti-vaxers try to get the gullible to believe.

It is also interesting that Conservative Premier Kenney and Conservative Premier Ford both favor vaccines and have imposed lockdowns.

I guess that that must mean that they must be socialists, communists, leftists, and trudeau lovers.

According to your logic(?) what other reason could there be?

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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by saddlegun
It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.

After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.

This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.

As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.

For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.

The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.

And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.


Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science...



For some strange reason people still aren’t willing to consider the very thing they were asking for in the first place. Most arguments against the use of Ivermectin, HQ, etc, etc as treatment or preventative to C19 has been a lack of Peer reviewed studies. Now those studies are starting to pile up with positive results, yet people still want to ignore it and call others conspiracy theorists. I don’t get it.

Even a non-supporter of Derrick Sloan can recognize he was a perfect sacrificial lamb for Erin Otoole to offer up to more liberal voters. His participation shouldn’t take away from what’s happening to doctors and scientists and the growing scientific evidence.

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If anything, you’re proving that political bias is interfering with scientific debate.

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Originally Posted by saddlegun
Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by saddlegun
It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.

After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.

This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.

As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.

For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.

The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.

And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.


Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science...


Can you name 10 such doctors from those "tens of thousands" ?

And Derek Sloan is indeed an ostracized ex-conservative who panders to his followers with sensationalist drivel.

And these 3 doctors are in a small minority in Canada. There peers do not agree with them.


Can you see the hypocrisy in you criticizing yukon254 for speaking on behalf of the "tens of thousands" of doctors, and in the same post you pretend to speak on behalf of the entire community of medical doctors in Canada?

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Originally Posted by saddlegun

And, since I am a gun owner and have published many positive posts about firearms, why would anybody believe that I am a socialist, a communist, a leftist, a trudeau lover, or any of these other ridiculous accusations?

In today's society, there are plenty of leftists that are pro-firearms. People are calling you these things because your opinions and statements on here seem to be consistent with much of the leftist rhetoric. Labeling those who disagree with you as "extremists" is a red flag, for sure.

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Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are.

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