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A good watch thank you

Pretty cool, tks

I looked for the guy's "Part 2" of the series but it might not be out yet.

I'm curious about the guy's assertion that White guys fought with and dressed like Apaches, other than Mickey Free, my impression has been that the Apache way of life was so physically demanding that few not actually raised in that lifestyle could hack it.

I had thought that Tommy Lee Jones' character in "The Missing" was sorta bogus, maybe I was wrong.







Neat to see rapid-fire with a trapdoor Springfield, I've never handled one.

I was thinking the .50-70 Geronimo handed over to John Clum was a junk rifle selected for the occasion but apparently, given the described circumstance, it really was his primary arm at the time.

they were interesting to me for a variety of reasons.
i have a number of early springfields, including a pencil bayonet one, always just assumed they were 45.70, might not be true.
also have two 1870 rolling blocks, have never got around to getting a chamber cast for caliber, but given what they are saying probably a good
idea. they came off the san carlos indian reservation. one is in parts, as i disassembled it to redo the stock, cracked and fixed with those round pins as shown in the youtube. was gonna have crossfireops do this, but he died before i could get it done.
i also have a very wierd single shot, nobody has been able to identify to me, other that shortly after civil war. have to get a chamber cast of it too.
one of the interesting things about the apache, not all surrendered. some were running free into the 1920's and there were joint american and mexican expeditions against them which none of them worked.

I very seldom go the the theater and see a movie anymore. I went and saw The Missing. I thought there were bogus elements in it. I wouldn't say TLJ's character was bogus. I'm feeling charitable today so I'd give the movie 3 out of 5 stars.

excellent videos ! thanks for posting them,Pete53

Wonder where the dude got the reproduction Apache boots?

Mine are thigh length when pulled up, from a pattern made by an elder who took her mom's apart to find out how they made them in the olden days. Mom's were from the 1918 time period. White Mountain Apache tribe.

And yes, the toes are weird but they sure protect my tootsies from rocks when hunting.

those are pretty cool.

cactus kickers!

Desert Son in Tucson still makes them...along with a lot of other styles

It was an OK Movie. I’ll give it a 2.5 out of a possible 5.
Like most of the stuff Ron “Opie” Howard churns out, I found it lacking substance. Had some good actors, though.
Tommy Lee Jones always plays an asswhole. Not near as much as he is in real life, though.

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[Like most of the stuff Ron “Opie” Howard churns out, I found it lacking substance. Had some good actors, though.
Tommy Lee Jones always plays an asswhole. Not near as much as he is in real life, though.}
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That conveys a message well.

Geronimo, one of the, if not the, toughest men ever born. He's what gives the Apaches the reputation they have as fighters survivors. Prophesized he couldn't be killed in battle, could heal others, was a medicine man and could see the future. Anyway lots of well known stories.

A few not so known...

After the Mexicans killed his mother, wife and kids... he was still young... he was granted some warriors to retaliate. During the fight he would run zig zag at a soldier avoiding bullets and then kill him/them with a knife, take their guns and run back to his side giving them to his warriors... he didn't know how to use a gun himself. He got the name Geronimo during that fight from the Mexicans, who would yell his new name in fear every time he made a run at them, his side picked it up and would yell the name in encouragement.

When things got bad he'd give up and go to the reservation. One of his last escapes was from Turkey creek, he was farming there and the year before had planted a corn crop and made some money, the next year he had planted oats but before he could harvest he heard he was to be arrested, so left. Crook had to go catch him again and asked him why he left in exasperation because Turkey creek was a decent place for the Apache.

He then was forced to send Geronimo to Florida. Geronimo made money at fairs, wild west shows, exhibitions. He road in Teddy Roosevelts presidential parade, more people wanted to see Geronimo than Roosevelt. He asked Roosevelt if he could ever go back to Arizona and was told no, he was to hated back there.

He became a Christian and thought the majority of whites were peaceful and nice.

He never quit hating Mexicans.

Kent

Interesting info!

So, what's Geronimo mean Spanish to English?

Spanish version of Jerome, according to the ‘net.

The story I read that early on in his career in a battle where he was avenging the death of his wife and child at the hands of Mexican soldiers it was on the feast day of San Geronimo, and some of the soldiers he was killing were calling upon San Geronimo for protection.

Interesting history that’s for sure.

That 50-70 must of put the wallop on its target.

I have driven by the site of the Ward Ranch many times. It is on state rt 82 just South of Patagonia. There is a historical sigh mentioning the kidnapping as seen in the link below.

I read that Mickey Free and some of his followers would charge hell with a bucket of water. Micky lost an eye when he leaned down to deal with a deer and the deer moved putting an antler into his eye.

Right photo of Mickey shows a whiteish eye


http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/titus-arizona-2.htm

Geronimo's real name was Goyaałé or Goyathlay, I've seen 4 or 5 different spellings... the one who yawns.

Mexicans are responsible for Geronimo, there's different versions.

He had 9 wives... that right there may make him the bravest man ever...

Kent

Or dumbest

That too...

It was said the only thing an Apache feared was a Navajo... if one decided to kill you he never stopped till he did.

Geronimo killed mexicans whenever he could, he had such contempt he'd often use a rock or stick instead of wasting a bullet.

Kent