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On page 275 of Jack O’Connor’s excellent book “Sheep and Sheep Hunting” he writes the following “A 7.5 or 8-pound scope-equipped No.1 (referring to the Ruger 1) in 7x57... would be an excellent lazy man’s sheep rifle.” Now I’m not exactly a ball of fire and most other sheep hunters I know are not either; but “Lazy Man”? Any idea what he meant by that comment? I have tried to figure that out for years but I don’t seem to be astute enough to get it. How about you?
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I think it was a phrase used at the time to mean an economical or quick solution.
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Not Over-Thinking It, or Over-Doing It yep multiple options, calibers can't substitute great really good physical conditioning though
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I think it was a phrase used at the time to mean an economical or quick solution. Yep, let’s not over think this we ain’t dealing in rocket science right here.
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Ruger no1 economical? Never heard that combination before.
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Ruger no1 economical? Never heard that combination before. Know what you mean, however Jack's using rifles were custom beauties so by comparison...
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I'd say he'd had to much to drink when he said that. The only number 1A in 7x57 I've owned only shot 154 and 175 gr round noses worth a damn because of how Ruger put a really long throat in them. A 1 b isn't all that light. Mb
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I have my copy of the Sheep and Sheep Hunting loaned out at the moment but I would like to see the context that quote was used in. But IMO I believe he was referring to the weight of the rifle, if you have read much O'Conner it is mentioned at various times that he liked a 7-1/2 to 8 lb rifle which was considered a lightweight at that time.
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Pretty sure he was thinking of loads with 139 or 140s for max pbr . Wasn’t there a 7x57 chambering in a model with light shorter 22” barrel ?
Unfortunate, but historical all the various throatings out there in this caliber.
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On page 275 of Jack O’Connor’s excellent book “Sheep and Sheep Hunting” he writes the following “A 7.5 or 8-pound scope-equipped No.1 (referring to the Ruger 1) in 7x57... would be an excellent lazy man’s sheep rifle.” Now I’m not exactly a ball of fire and most other sheep hunters I know are not either; but “Lazy Man”? Any idea what he meant by that comment? I have tried to figure that out for years but I don’t seem to be astute enough to get it. How about you? Interesting, I have the book and tried the #1 for sheep hunting and I sold it. I hunt horseback, it rides in a scabbard pretty well, you do need extra time to fumble a round into the chamber, this annoyed me a little. What really ticked me off - a small set screw holding a tiny spring fell out in my travels and with the spring gone the action wouldn't lock up. It was relegated to a jack handle or a tent pole on that hunt. Who would of thunk it? Well, I think without a rifle a hunter might be lazy and stay in camp
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Maybe he meant a rifle that you wouldn't have to take to Al Biesen for a makeover first... Then again, I doubt it was much better than a Model 70 Featherweight was from the factory.
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If I were to do a sheep hunt, yeah like I could ever afford to do one and if I were to use the 7x57 cartridge I would not choose the Ruger #1. I have a #1A in 7x57 that shoots just about any bullet decently enough but so does my push feed Winchester M70 Featherweight, also a 7x57 and it's definitely a lighter weight rifle. Probably the only time I would disagree with Jack on anything related to rifles for hunting. Paul B.
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If I were to do a sheep hunt, yeah like I could ever afford to do one and if I were to use the 7x57 cartridge I would not choose the Ruger #1. I have a #1A in 7x57 that shoots just about any bullet decently enough but so does my push feed Winchester M70 Featherweight, also a 7x57 and it's definitely a lighter weight rifle. Probably the only time I would disagree with Jack on anything related to rifles for hunting. Paul B. I agree, I disagree with Jack on this...I don't believe he tried the #1....yeah, Jack was the best
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A lazy mans solution is a good solution brought about with the lest amount of effort. One of my favorite No1's is a 1A in 280. Close to Jacks description.
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Thanks guys, some interesting thoughts. I actually do hunt with a Ruger 1, 270 Winchester and took my Desert Bighorn with it. It really isn’t a lightweight by today’s standards weighting in at 8 pounds 3 ounces with it’s 24” Krieger barrel but it shoots under an inch just about any bullet. I especially like the handiness of it’s short overall length and find the slightly muzzle heavy balance comfortable to carry. I talked to Jack a few times over the phone but never questioned him about the Lazy Man comment. As a professional writer he chose his words deliberately and what was meant is anyone’s guess😀
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I see that Ruger lists the Lipsey 1A ? In 6.5 CM with 24” bbl at 6.8 lbs.
I’m thinking that would be the modern day “Lazy Man’s” choice. Consistent chambering, Easy ammo selection, etc. Reasonable weight
Jack’s notion Of a sheep or mountain rifle, would probably fit in with MuleDeers notion of a light Plains Rifle
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Jack was a writer, Eleanor was the hunter. Talk about lazy man..
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