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Originally Posted by mirage243
Sumbitch killed a lot of our boys over there.


Thats fugging a right.


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Bad decision donny.....
Lived and seen the results of his psuedo presidency pulling georgies strings

1.Dissolved Iraqi govt, army, and police
Total fugging chaos after george declared victory in may 03
We used german and Japanese soldiers and govt officials after Ww2 to help run their countries cause they knew how too.....

We had to start from scratch....
Invent everything on the fly with constant ROE changes and pacification rebuilding efforts with donnies bud paul bremer.
JFC....
They didnt listen to a fugging thing the boots on the ground from private to 4 star had to say.....

Had a big dust up riot May 12 in mosul city center cause of that schit.
No one had a fughing job anymore in the country...

Fuggers using Human sheilds to fire at us, molotovs and russian egg grenades over the wall.
Svd and ak sniper fire from buildings.
Col Anderson arrived on the scene and said fugg the new ROE from the top( donnie)
Hose the fuggers down with aimed fire and take out the leaders in the background.
Word got passed to each individual with a M4 in the platoon to pick out one azzhole and fire on the red star cluster.
No 240,s or 249,s allowed to fire except into buildings where sniper fire was coming from at times.

That 4 or 5 seconds of accurate fire dispelled that riot fast....
( should have done it here summer 2020)
The minons start seeing their leaders getting shot.
And the horror sets in fast and they run away and never come back.


2. Complete free pass for all foreign nationals in country if they had some form of a passport
JFC...
lebanese
Chechens
Saudis
Egyptians.
Ect ect ect
Had ta let go 3 syrian fuggs with shaved heads and full beards one day in Mosul.
Knowing full well they were paid fedeyeen fighters 2 weeks prior....
Cok sukka s smiling that smile at me and the sq I was walking with.
They knew they had a get outta jail free card.
Mass exodus of fedeyeen fuggs outta hiding and the country when word got out about that schit
Thanks donnie. .....

3. Allowing every home to register 1 Ak and 1 9mm pistol each with 3 mags per if they admited they had any wpns at all....
Multiply that policy nationwide.
Made me sick walking patrols each day in may and june 03 with the cards in english and arabic with a interpreter doing that schit.
What could possibly go wrong with that policy.
Thanks donnie dickhead......


4.wpns buy back program june july 03
100 bucks per POS turned in.
Think we got anything worth a fugg operable.
Fugg no.....
Fugging broke bolt action ww1 and ww2 rifles of various makes.
Seized up pistols and revolvers.
JFC.....

Haji used that joke of a program to buy black market wpns, ammo, and chow and sat on his azz for 2 months planning the insurgency in the 3 man cell concept.
Multiply that nationwide...

5.Paying all Iraqi retirements from Republican gaurd types, Iran Iraq war vets, civil servants, and their version of SS.
Hey numbnuts you dissolved their govt 2 months ago....
This is gonna be a goat f u c k....

I spent 2 weeks on bank detail with literally 2 million dollars in 20 dollar bills, 4 shrink wrapped bundles of 500 k each.
My sole responsiblity was bank security and beginning and end count each day.
0 QC with the Iraqi bank workers and their huge list each day they had in arabic of who was who.
40 bucks each every 2 weeks.

Literally....
Dying 80 90 yr old grannies being carried in on rugs to make their mark and get their 40 bucks.

Lines 8 900 yds long.
Male and female lines
In 110° city heat.
Throw in 3 firefights and panicked civilians in those 2 weeks.

Most stress my platoon went thru playing fugging banker and bank line guard never knowing when you going to get hit and have 1000,s of panicked ragheads of all ages running the fugg around.
Thanks donnie..

5. After we left OIF 1 in march 04.
Donnie dumbfugg went to the FOB concept in late 04 early 05
In other words prior to that we lived in our area of operations in platoon combat outpost.
We owned our ground 24/7 with unpredictable patrol cycles.
The neighborhoods were ours.
The city was ours.

Soon as the hole up inside the wire policy on fobs and leave to do a presence patrol schit started.
We lost that war at that point.....
And haji owned the ground then 24/7....


Thanks donnie.....




Hope Satan is f u c k ing you up the azz right now with his fish hook covered C O C K........

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right on Ren, when the pols decide that war is necessary they need to let the pros go in and kill folks and break stuff then come home and dare them to do it again. Punitive expeditions rock! Few folks deserve democracy and ROEs should be "if he doesn't look like you kill him and everyone that supports him"

War is too important to be left to politicians. grin


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Originally Posted by lvmiker
right on Ren, when the pols decide that war is necessary they need to let the pros go in and kill folks and break stuff then come home and dare them to do it again. Punitive expeditions rock! Few folks deserve democracy and ROEs should be "if he doesn't look like you kill him and everyone that supports him"

War is too important to be left to politicians. grin


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You guys went thru the same bullschitt in vietnam.

Soldiers and Marines didnt lose that war either.

Politicians and their buds with portfolio book interest exploited it for as long as they could.

Same schit in my era.


Eisenhower warned of the military related industrial complex and what influence it would gain.......

Joe dies
Joe gets fugged up.

Politicians and their buds get rich......

Rumsfeld and Cheney are perfect examples of it.....

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Originally Posted by lvmiker
Few folks deserve democracy and ROEs should be "if he doesn't look like you kill him and everyone that supports him.

War is too important to be left to politicians. grin


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That policy could correct a large part of what ills America has right now.

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I said so back then and I stick by it now. They can all suck my Dick Tracy. They had a chance to totally annihilate the enemy, hear the lamentations of the women and see their enemies fleeing before them. They chose instead to get rich on the blood and sweat of the boots on the ground ,in the air and on the water!

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Didnt LBJ,s ole lady hold a schit load of stock in bell helicoptor and dupont IIRC...

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Originally Posted by Stophel
I just wish the people that hate Rumsfeld and Bush now, hated them that much back when they were in Washington.


Yep.

Back in the day they were touted as being great, go get’em, kick ass guys here at The Campfire.

My, How perspectives and opinions tends to change.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Stophel
I just wish the people that hate Rumsfeld and Bush now, hated them that much back when they were in Washington.


Yep.

Back in the day they were touted as being great, go get’em, kick ass guys here at The Campfire.

My, How perspectives and opinions tends to change.

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We took all their bullschiit at face value and bought into all of it. Hopefully there is a special place in hell where Rumsfeld is going.

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Didnt LBJ,s ole lady hold a schit load of stock in bell helicoptor and dupont IIRC...



Brown & Root???? Dammit brain fart. Or was it another company Lady Turd was all tied up in.


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Originally Posted by Springcove
We took all their bullschiit at face value and bought into all of it. Hopefully there is a special place in hell where Rumsfeld is going.


We sure did.

My dad didn't.

He was against Desert Storm too.


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Didnt LBJ,s ole lady hold a schit load of stock in bell helicoptor and dupont IIRC...



Brown & Root???? Dammit brain fart. Or was it another company Lady Turd was all tied up in.

It was PA and E in Vietnam. Pretty much same as Brown and Root. Scam from top to bottom, raking in money by the truckload.

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I didn’t have a problem with Rumsfeld. And I hunted people abroad.
He was on the tail end, though. Les Aspin was a dipshit. Fck that guy.

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I thought the Iraq war was BS back then, my view hasn’t changed. Rumsfeld was cog in the industrial war machine that killed millions for no good reason.


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I've voiced my opinion of the man from my view from the outside looking in all those years, while many I served with were chewing some of the same ground as some of you here. The warriors I converse with held Rumsfeld in high regard and many had personal contact with the man when he was SecDef. I was serious anti-government and bitter for many years after I got out so my opinions of the man and his cronies are way tainted, but I stand by them as I feel we should have gone scorched earth on the entire region or not gone at all.

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I voted for and supported Bush and Rumsfeld at the time. I was wrong. Very wrong. Hindsight's a bitch.

Gore and Kerry were bad news on so many fronts, but in hindsight the Patriot Act and the DHS are probably the worst things to happen to this country in it's entire history. The republicans were the party of patriotism and both the Patriot Act and the DHS were sold on patriotism.

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