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You have to type really slow for Mikey. That buzzed over his head at mach 2. Well dang, and I always thought the lungs were between the back shoulders.
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I'll never forget the little man...... You have to type really slow for Mikey. That buzzed over his head at mach 2. Well dang, and I always thought the lungs were between the back shoulders.
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Like I said, I have that affect on women.
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Thank your lucky stars you found one that didn't want to forget the little man. Most did..... "Honey........smaller isn't better........and hunting with smaller calibers doesn't change that. Sorry, but I am moving on. Still friends?"
Like I said, I have that affect on women.
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
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A guy I used to work with went to South Africa about 8 or 10 years ago on a plains game hunt. He is a great shot and cool headed. He killed 17 head of game (including a 1400lb. Eland) with 19 shots. He used a Blaser 30/06 rented from the PH. His ammo? Regular old plain Jane green and yellow box 165 grain Core-Lokt Remington.
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In my Limited experience ,I don't consider Nosler Partitions a Premium bullet, I use them as a Standard, to compare other bullets to. I have killed elk with Remington corelokts so nothing special is required.
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I gave you a day to continue your edits as more clever stuff popped in to your cranium, I understand you are a little slow. There’s some of us that don’t have to overcompensate for anything. Then there are those that have to overcompensate for everything. Pretty obvious where you fall. Thank your lucky stars you found one that didn't want to forget the little man. Most did..... "Honey........smaller isn't better........and hunting with smaller calibers doesn't change that. Sorry, but I am moving on. Still friends?"
Like I said, I have that affect on women.
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It's been a few days, I'm missing that crafty wordsmithing and razor sharp wit lol.
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It's been a few days, I'm missing that crafty wordsmithing and razor sharp wit lol. I've been missing that since the beginning of this thread......
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Given that the ammo is so little the cost of the hunt, no reason to cut cost on the bullet.
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Given that the ammo is so little the cost of the hunt, no reason to cut cost on the bullet. This is the key point. Even if you're broke as hell, a handful of bullets in any reasonable caliber are cheap compared to the tag. Then you have other expenses. Premium bullets - especially high weight retention lead designs - work better and help prevent game loss. They're a good thing and people should use them for large animals including elk.
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In my Limited experience ,I don't consider Nosler Partitions a Premium bullet, I use them as a Standard, to compare other bullets to. I have killed elk with Remington corelokts so nothing special is required. I don't get this line of thinking: I have done something this way therefore nothing special (here: premium bullet) is needed. Based upon your experience then but what is the sample size of that experience and what were the variables associated with the sample? All broadside shots at undisturbed animals grazing unaware of your presence 100 yards away? Or making tracks away from you through heavy timber? Across a canyon at 400 yards? Can you be more specific?
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An F150 is only $2500 less than an F350 and my uncle had to pull a big trailer one time 25 years ago so I’d better have the one ton just in case…..
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The argument that even “premium” bullets are inexpensive and therefor should be used is irrelevant in that it assumes “non-premium” bullets are inadequate in the first place. What’s a “premium” bullet anyways, and what does the word have to do with the supposed ideal performance? Is a Matchking a premium bullet? How about a Barnes TTSX, Scenar or a Berger? Do they all share the same desired characteristics that make a premium bullets supposedly successful and cup cores “non-premiums” not successful? Confusing considering many of these bullets aren’t even labeled “premium”. Where I live you can get OTC elk tags, the VAST majority of folks just buy Remington, Federal blue box or Winchester powerpoints and if you ask, many couldn’t tell you what a premium bullet is. What’s on the shelf and inexpensive is most likely going to dictate what they use. I can’t even imagine how many thousands of elk over the years have been killed up here by “non-premium” bullets. On threads like this it’s always those who criticize are the same ones that have never done it, and those who haven’t done it, blame the cartridge or the bullet on failures they never experienced.
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Given that the ammo is so little the cost of the hunt, no reason to cut cost on the bullet. This is the key point. Even if you're broke as hell, a handful of bullets in any reasonable caliber are cheap compared to the tag. Then you have other expenses. Premium bullets - especially high weight retention lead designs - work better and help prevent game loss. They're a good thing and people should use them for large animals including elk. I love it when a guy tells me what kind of bullet I should use.
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Given that the ammo is so little the cost of the hunt, no reason to cut cost on the bullet. This is the key point. Even if you're broke as hell, a handful of bullets in any reasonable caliber are cheap compared to the tag. Then you have other expenses. Premium bullets - especially high weight retention lead designs - work better and help prevent game loss. They're a good thing and people should use them for large animals including elk. I love it when a guy tells me what kind of bullet I should use. It’s for your own good. If you haven’t been using said bullets then you have been doing it wrong. It’s amazing that anything gets killed these days with all the wrong bullets being used.
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You should probably make that a duel wheel in case you ever buy a 45’ gooseneck. An F150 is only $2500 less than an F350 and my uncle had to pull a big trailer one time 25 years ago so I’d better have the one ton just in case…..
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You’re both ignorant of current truck prices…..along with a few thousand other things. By all means, take your PT Cruisers up for that mountain elk hunt. If it worked once…..who could ever challenge the validity? Certainly not someone who has never owned a PT! You should probably make that a duel wheel in case you ever buy a 45’ gooseneck. An F150 is only $2500 less than an F350 and my uncle had to pull a big trailer one time 25 years ago so I’d better have the one ton just in case…..
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
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Mikey, you keep stepping on your dick. ( you must have really short legs.)
I just might have some real recent experience pricing trucks, but that’s irrelevant in the conversation. The point went over your head at Mach 2.
Made any road trips in the wife’s grocery getter lately? Maybe someday she’ll let you get your own.
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In Wyoming right now…..in the grocery getter……end destination Idaho.
You at the lunch table? A lower chair could get your little feet to the floor.
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