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iSeeCars.com's analysis of some 470,000 2019- and 2020-model-year cars listed for sale in June found that the gap between used- and new-car prices had shrunk considerably in recent months. In early November, the average lightly used car cost nearly 11% less than its new counterpart. In June, that gap was just over 3%.

Some especially popular models — ones that are hard to find new right now — cost thousands more on the secondhand market. See the list of 16 vehicles below.
1. Kia Telluride

Average price new: $44,166
Average price used: $47,730
Difference: $3,564, 8.1%

2. GMC Sierra 1500


Average price new: $54,205
Average price used: $57,671
Difference: $3,466, 6.4%

3. Toyota Tacoma

Average price new: $37,902
Average price used: $39,857
Difference: $1,955, 5.2%

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4. Mercedes-Benz G-Class


Average price new: $182,631
Average price used: $190,078
Difference: $7,447, 4.1%

5. Toyota RAV4 Hybrid

Average price new: $34,995
Average price used: $36,352
Difference: $1,357, 3.9%

6. Toyota Tundra

Average price new: $49,643
Average price used: $51,474
Difference: $1,831, 3.7%

7. Dodge Challenger



Average price new: $39,375
Average price used: $40,764
Difference: $1,388, 3.5%

8. Toyota 4Runner


Average price new: $45,382
Average price used: $46,867
Difference: $1,485, 3.3%

9. Hyundai Palisade


Average price new: $44,063
Average price used: $45,356
Difference: $1,293, 2.9%

10. Tesla Model 3


Average price new: $44,409
Average price used: $45,677
Difference: $1,268, 2.9%

11. Honda Civic


Average price new: $26,331
Average price used: $27,058
Difference: $727, 2.8%

12. Dodge Charger


Average price new: $38,977
Average price used: $39,874
Difference: $897, 2.3%

13. Honda Odyssey


Average price new: $37,612
Average price used: $38,048
Difference: $435, 1.2%

14. Kia Rio

Average price new: $17,346
Average price used: $17,472
Difference: $127, 0.7%

15. Subaru Crosstrek


Average price new: $29,474
Average price used: $29,642
Difference: $168, 0.6%

16. Subaru WRX


Average price new: $34,487
Average price used: $34,568
Difference: $81, 0.2%


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Little brother bought a brand new Silverado Trail Boss edition just before Covid hit. Had 20k miles on it - they have him 10k more than he paid for it. Bought it outright. Not traded in.

Took the money to a different dealer and bought a Jeep.


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Was getting an inspection done the other day at my dealer, and the general manager asked if I was interested in selling my F350 dually 4x4...

Out of curiousity, I asked what it was worth?

He offered more than I paid for it in 2017... shocked

Told him I'd better not, as I needed it.


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My son bought a 2012 Regular cab Cummins with a 6 speed manual and 37K miles last year for about 30K,private party sale. He's been offered 40K numerous times for it but couldn't replace it. Our neighbor paid 55,000 for a 2017 Cummins Dually new, and the trade in is more than that now. Hard time to be buying a truck.

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2018 AWD Jeep Renegade Latitude, bought in early 2020 with 18k miles on it for $16,000. Less than 20k miles on it now. Last week was told current trade-in value is 21,000 - $22,000 range.

Several large local dealerships have been taking out full page ads in area newspapers devoted exclusively to wanting to buy used vehicles.

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saw a video where a guy wrecked his Jeep Gladiator and bent the front axle. The insurance company totaled the car because they couldn't get parts for it.

My wife loves her low mileage 2014 car, but if I could get what I paid for it , I'd sell that in a heart beat. Let her drive my car for a couple of years until this market straightens back out.

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The price of a new Toyota Camry has increased almost 50% in 4 years. And there's no dealing with those azz holes.


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My daily driver has been a ‘99 Tacoma since circa 2000 when my ‘87 Taco got t boned

I jokingly refer to it as the pride of the fleet. Though truth be told I prefer it over my wife’s ‘15 Taco.

Youngest son bought a ‘99 Taco, same color as mine btw, recently for 16K 🤦🏼‍♂️ Wtf says I, that much for a ‘99 ?


But it’s tricked out for serious off roading, body sharp & appears to be well maintained other than a cv boot & perhaps cv axle needing replaced.

So imo he’s got a better truck & spent a lil under half for a new one. His brother in law the mechanic loves it

Musta got his smarts from his mom. Plus his is a six banger mine just a four, it is nice the extra power.

His buddy got a ‘73 Ford F-250. Can’t blame either one of them. Old school rules


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Originally Posted by KFWA
saw a video where a guy wrecked his Jeep Gladiator and bent the front axle. The insurance company totaled the car because they couldn't get parts for it.

My wife loves her low mileage 2014 car, but if I could get what I paid for it , I'd sell that in a heart beat. Let her drive my car for a couple of years until this market straightens back out.



Buy the Gladiator back and call Currie or Dynatrac - have a better vehicle in the end.


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Crazy times.....

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ATV's/UTV's are crazy prices now too.

I have a really nice Honda Rancher ATV that is now worth twice what it was a year ago. Probably more than twice.


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Originally Posted by Teal
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saw a video where a guy wrecked his Jeep Gladiator and bent the front axle. The insurance company totaled the car because they couldn't get parts for it.

My wife loves her low mileage 2014 car, but if I could get what I paid for it , I'd sell that in a heart beat. Let her drive my car for a couple of years until this market straightens back out.



Buy the Gladiator back and call Currie or Dynatrac - have a better vehicle in the end.



I was thinking take whatever the insurance company gives you to let you keep it and then wait for parts to become available at least


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Traded in a 3 year old Tacoma, dealer gave me 40K for it. Window sticker still in the glove box MSRP $38k. The weird thing is, there are still new Tacomas on the lot here, not sure why anyone would rather have a used one.

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Originally Posted by KFWA
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saw a video where a guy wrecked his Jeep Gladiator and bent the front axle. The insurance company totaled the car because they couldn't get parts for it.

My wife loves her low mileage 2014 car, but if I could get what I paid for it , I'd sell that in a heart beat. Let her drive my car for a couple of years until this market straightens back out.



Buy the Gladiator back and call Currie or Dynatrac - have a better vehicle in the end.



I was thinking take whatever the insurance company gives you to let you keep it and then wait for parts to become available at least


I wouldn't replace it with OEM axles. My point.


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Around here, if the value is more used then new... it will just increase chances of it getting stolen, by some Beavis and Butthead meth heads...


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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by KFWA
saw a video where a guy wrecked his Jeep Gladiator and bent the front axle. The insurance company totaled the car because they couldn't get parts for it.

My wife loves her low mileage 2014 car, but if I could get what I paid for it , I'd sell that in a heart beat. Let her drive my car for a couple of years until this market straightens back out.



Buy the Gladiator back and call Currie or Dynatrac - have a better vehicle in the end.


Yeah I’d buy it back too if I liked it

Axles can be had


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Printing $6 trillion and handing it out in bizarre ways is going to have an effect.



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Don't worry guys, the way the market is going, people won't be buying new or used!

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Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
My daily driver has been a ‘99 Tacoma since circa 2000 when my ‘87 Taco got t boned

I jokingly refer to it as the pride of the fleet. Though truth be told I prefer it over my wife’s ‘15 Taco.

Youngest son bought a ‘99 Taco, same color as mine btw, recently for 16K 🤦🏼‍♂️ Wtf says I, that much for a ‘99 ?


But it’s tricked out for serious off roading, body sharp & appears to be well maintained other than a cv boot & perhaps cv axle needing replaced.

So imo he’s got a better truck & spent a lil under half for a new one. His brother in law the mechanic loves it

Musta got his smarts from his mom. Plus his is a six banger mine just a four, it is nice the extra power.

His buddy got a ‘73 Ford F-250. Can’t blame either one of them. Old school rules

Tricked out can mean two things. Highway cruiser or off road trashed. Bad cv boot and axle, means poor maintenance!

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Was looking to replace my 12 year old Yukon this year, but I guess not, can't find anything I want to replace it, and prices are crazy.

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