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It's been bantered a bit here before, but curious who's using Starlink and how is the service as of 7/21? Got the email today indicating that our kit is inbound.
Musk's recent comments stating that he needs $30 billion to see Starlink succeed don't instill much confidence. Until then we were pretty hopeful. It's no secret that Musk has a habit of inserting his foot in his mouth with his brutal honesty or opinions.
Curious if we need to put that 'middle finger' call to Hughesnet on hold.....thoughts? Current experiences?
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Starlink is not counting exclusively on rural consumers for profit. When fully built out, it will provide lower latency than transoceanic cables. The high frequency traders will pay big bucks for faster connections between the NY, London, etc. stock exchanges.
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Been on the list since they started taking orders. Still says late 2021.
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My IT guy has used starlink on a project, and claims the speed is unreal. I’ll be using it on a project next year. Should be enlightening.
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It's not going to be available to us for awhile. I've actually signed up for Pacific Dataport which should be available this fall. The satellites are on a N-S orbit and cover polar regions and high latitudes better
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Starlink is not counting exclusively on rural consumers for profit. When fully built out, it will provide lower latency than transoceanic cables. The high frequency traders will pay big bucks for faster connections between the NY, London, etc. stock exchanges. That statement doesn't make sense. 1's and 0's travel at the speed of light whether on fiber or on radio waves. In order to get from point A to point Z (terminal to server), the only way to reduce latency is to reduce distance (assuming there aren't other latency inducing factors). Starlink does nothing to reduce distance over fiber.
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Sounds encouraging. I hope the speeds don't go down the crapper when millions of people are sharing the service.
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Starlink is not counting exclusively on rural consumers for profit. When fully built out, it will provide lower latency than transoceanic cables. The high frequency traders will pay big bucks for faster connections between the NY, London, etc. stock exchanges. That statement doesn't make sense. 1's and 0's travel at the speed of light whether on fiber or on radio waves. In order to get from point A to point Z (terminal to server), the only way to reduce latency is to reduce distance (assuming there aren't other latency inducing factors). Starlink does nothing to reduce distance over fiber. Yes and no. The total distance going up to the satellite and back down may be longer than a terrestrial path, but transcontinental transmission across cables, even fiber, requires several repeaters due to signal loss. Each one of those adds a delay.
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Sounds encouraging. I hope the speeds don't go down the crapper when millions of people are sharing the service. I've read that Musk is committed to capping the service before he lets overuse or 'oversold' become a problem. Those of us with Hughesnet know just how bad it can get when a company goes the 'profit over quality' route. Brutal.
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Starlink is not counting exclusively on rural consumers for profit. When fully built out, it will provide lower latency than transoceanic cables. The high frequency traders will pay big bucks for faster connections between the NY, London, etc. stock exchanges. That statement doesn't make sense. 1's and 0's travel at the speed of light whether on fiber or on radio waves. In order to get from point A to point Z (terminal to server), the only way to reduce latency is to reduce distance (assuming there aren't other latency inducing factors). Starlink does nothing to reduce distance over fiber. Yes and no. The total distance going up to the satellite and back down may be longer than a terrestrial path, but transcontinental transmission across cables, even fiber, requires several repeaters due to signal loss. Each one of those adds a delay. Nope. The comment was made about transoceanic cables. Undersea fibers do not use repeaters. They use EDFA's without any latency Also, long haul terrestrial fiber is also amplified with EDFA's, still no latency added.
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Starlink? Is that the future Skynet and is Arnold going to be visiting us soon?
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Quite awhile back I signed up on email to Starlink, said they'd let me know when it was available here so I could sign up. Never heard a peep. Saw on social media folks around me talking about how good it was. Looked at it again and had to pay up front for it, even though I couldn't get it yet. I said fugk you.
I am rethinking my position. Hughsnet isn't fit to lick the dogchidt off my boots. Lying corksuckers. I cannot wait until I can can dump them in favor of something better.
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Quite awhile back I signed up on email to Starlink, said they'd let me know when it was available here so I could sign up. Never heard a peep. Saw on social media folks around me talking about how good it was. Looked at it again and had to pay up front for it, even though I couldn't get it yet. I said fugk you.
I am rethinking my position. Hughsnet isn't fit to lick the dogchidt off my boots. Lying corksuckers. I cannot wait until I can can dump them in favor of something better. Up ya’lls way, do cell companies offer Fixed cell service? Mount an antenna and use cellular service for internet.
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I heard they have internet on computers now
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Quite awhile back I signed up on email to Starlink, said they'd let me know when it was available here so I could sign up. Never heard a peep. Saw on social media folks around me talking about how good it was. Looked at it again and had to pay up front for it, even though I couldn't get it yet. I said fugk you.
I am rethinking my position. Hughsnet isn't fit to lick the dogchidt off my boots. Lying corksuckers. I cannot wait until I can can dump them in favor of something better. Up ya’lls way, do cell companies offer Fixed cell service? Mount an antenna and use cellular service for internet. If I were in a spot that had cell coverage I could do that and make my phone a hotspot. But I have basically no cell coverage at home, so an antennae isn't doing schist for me. I'm a slave to the satellite masters. Cell coverage is shidt anyways no matter where you are most the time now because the shidt eating tourons eat up all the coverage and the towers can't keep up. I honestly have a copper landline and it is the only way to get me at home, outside of email or an internet served messaging service.
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Quite awhile back I signed up on email to Starlink, said they'd let me know when it was available here so I could sign up. Never heard a peep. Saw on social media folks around me talking about how good it was. Looked at it again and had to pay up front for it, even though I couldn't get it yet. I said fugk you.
I am rethinking my position. Hughsnet isn't fit to lick the dogchidt off my boots. Lying corksuckers. I cannot wait until I can can dump them in favor of something better. It's only a $99 deposit to get on the Starlink list and it's refundable if you get tired of waiting. Think they're trying to sift out the tire kickers.
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