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Anyone got an example on why running top shelf scope glass is an advantage?
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Nope.
Hunting is all about finding game and getting close.
Alpha glass is for shooters, not hunters.
Someone can be both and have different types of rifles and scopes for different purposes.
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Beav, my woods Guns get glass that sees better in the dark since it seems dark in the woods and especially at last light when deer tend to move most.
The rifles for our west get scopes that track and are able to dial. I’ve never ran out of light before the end of legal time out west.
In the East is where the really nice glass shines in my opinion and I’m not dialing on most any of them either. They’re set and forget zeroed for sensible ranges.
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Copy that, Scotty...Make sense.
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Any thoughts on running better glass if hunting public land vs. private land ?
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Deer are out there all day. You don't have to shoot them in the dark nor do you have to sit on your ass waiting for them to move.
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It's up to you.
I shot deer for years with 3rd tier glass, but now that I can somewhat afford it, I do like the better glass.
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Reliability is what matters to me. Heck, I'll happily hunt with peep sights and a top tier binocular. Great glass is a must for me in binoculars. For a scope, I just want to bullet to go where the crosshairs are pointed.
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I have enjoyed using good glass for many years be it rifle scopes or binos, more than once I've been able to shoot an elk or deer at first light that with my lesser scoped rifles might have not ended the way I wanted. I don't dial and the price range of my "good" scopes are between $500 and $1000, after that I'm not sure if I could appreciate the difference but to my eyes my Zeiss, Kahles or Swaro scopes are well worth the extra cost over a VX 3 or the like.
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It's up to you.
I shot deer for years with 3rd tier glass, but now that I can somewhat afford it, I do like the better glass. I killed multiple deer every season with iron sights for many years. Some in excess of 200 yards and some on the run. Though a scope does offer advnatages over iron sights, they're still not mandatory for my success. I'll fill my tags with or without.
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If you can't see it clearly you can't shoot it accurately whether it be from distance, Mirage, or Darkness
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Any thoughts on running better glass if hunting public land vs. private land ?
🦫 Nope…. I’m intrigued where you’re going though. It's up to you.
I shot deer for years with 3rd tier glass, but now that I can somewhat afford it, I do like the better glass. I killed multiple deer every season with iron sights for many years. Some in excess of 200 yards and some on the run. Though a scope does offer advnatages over iron sights, they're still not mandatory for my success. I'll fill my tags with or without. Same here. Which scope do you prefer for your style of killing?
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I remember reading an article in Guns Digest that made an big impact on me, about a guide's view of working with clients ( by Jim Zumba?? John Barsness??)
One comment made in that article was the writer/guide would rather see a client show up with a beat up 270 Winchester bolt and a simple 4x scope, than a shiny new magnum rifle and big variable scope, and then have the "magnum rifle hunter" show up with a dinky pair of binoculars.
The writer's / guide's advice was to have the client put the bigger part of their optics budget into the best binocs they could afford, and not into the rifle scope. More time on the hunt was going to be spent using the binocs, not the rifle scope.
This approach struck me hard that made a lot of sense to me. It was an excellent, very enlightening and useful article. Bottom !ine? Alpha glass on the binocs first, decent glass on the rifle scope second.
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If you can't see it clearly you can't shoot it accurately whether it be from distance, Mirage, or Darkness I have enjoyed using good glass for many years be it rifle scopes or binos, more than once I've been able to shoot an elk or deer at first light that with my lesser scoped rifles might have not ended the way I wanted. I don't dial and the price range of my "good" scopes are between $500 and $1000, after that I'm not sure if I could appreciate the difference but to my eyes my Zeiss, Kahles or Swaro scopes are well worth the extra cost over a VX 3 or the like. Kind of leads me to a question I've often wondered. I know some guys that say they can't tell the difference between a Zeiss and a Bushnell Banner. I wonder if that's because their eyesight is very good or if it's because it's pouring out they don't get the benefit of the better glass. I think it's the later but
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Is there a concise definition for "Alpha Glass?"
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Any thoughts on running better glass if hunting public land vs. private land ?
🦫 Nope…. I’m intrigued where you’re going though. You can’t spook the hole, brother. Laffin 🦫
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Is there a concise definition for "Alpha Glass?" Is there any differences in spandex panties ? 😝🦫
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Any thoughts on running better glass if hunting public land vs. private land ?
🦫 Nope…. I’m intrigued where you’re going though. You can’t spook the hole, brother. Laffin 🦫 This is going 10 pages.. I’ll put a beer on it.
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I remember reading an article in Guns Digest that made an big impact on me, about a guide's view of working with clients ( by Jim Zumba?? John Barness??)
One comment made in that article was the writer/guide would rather see a client show up with a beat up 270 Winchester bolt and a simple 4x scope, than a shiny new magnum rifle and big variable scope, and then have the "magnum rifle hunter" show up with a dinky pair of binoculars.
The writer's / guide's advice was to have the client put the bigger part of their optics budget into the best binocs they could afford, and not into the rifle scope. More time on the hunt was going to be spent using the binocs, not the rifle scope.
This approach struck me hard that made a lot of pragmatic sense to me. It was an excellent, very enlightening and useful article. Bottom !ine? Alpha glass on the binocs first, decent glass on the rifle scope second.
There maybe a lot of truth to a guy with a well used rifle, who has hunted his entire life. Animals should probably fear him. 🦫
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Any thoughts on running better glass if hunting public land vs. private land ?
🦫 Nope…. I’m intrigued where you’re going though. You can’t spook the hole, brother. Laffin 🦫 This is going 10 pages.. I’ll put a beer on it. Deal 🤝 🦫
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