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Is the growth of actual practice of concealed carry endemic exclusively among high proles, petit-bourgeoisie or the wealthier segment of the working class?
Most often I see it characterized as a thing favored by conservative members of the Republican party and criticized and chastened by liberal members of the Democratic party. Yet it seems equally evident that there are a lot of people, regardless of their political ideology, that do not and will not carry.
* Upper class -- they might own a few Purdeys and if they own a handgun it would be a Webley revolver, but they certainly don't carry it, ever.
* Upper-Middle -- the Mark and Patricia McCloskeys, hopeless affectation at best
* Middle class (American bourgeoisie) -- Clark Griswold, corporate policy forbids it, they're also too insecure to try anything perceived as unconventional, unwilling to offend anyone or assert themselves at the risk of acceptance, most likely to go along with "gun control" out of fear
* High Prole (petit bourgeoisie) -- often richer than the middle class, displayed in their high-end bass boats, $35K turbo SxS, new Harley or KTM motorcycle, and 45 foot 5th wheel with a new high-end turbo diesel duallie; they're also under less supervision at work than the corporate man or the wage slave below them, they may even own the small business, and they carry
* Mid Prole -- Fred Flintstone, Archie Bunker, Homer Simpson, like the white collar office worker, they're under too much supervision to get away with carry that's against company rules and even if they put it on after work to affect a less supervised high prole, they don't often go anywhere but their own house or Walmart. Even when they travel, it's likely to tourist places like Disney resorts. Most likely to open carry (at Walmart).
* Low Prole -- have a good probability of a criminal record, either felony, drugs, or domestic that keeps them prohibited, most likely to carry illegally but most don't because of the greater probability that even if they're lawful, they live in an area that's overpoliced and they're likely to be harrassed Relax karen.
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Is the growth of actual practice of concealed carry endemic exclusively among high proles, petit-bourgeoisie or the wealthier segment of the working class?
Most often I see it characterized as a thing favored by conservative members of the Republican party and criticized and chastened by liberal members of the Democratic party. Yet it seems equally evident that there are a lot of people, regardless of their political ideology, that do not and will not carry.
* Upper class -- they might own a few Purdeys and if they own a handgun it would be a Webley revolver, but they certainly don't carry it, ever.
* Upper-Middle -- the Mark and Patricia McCloskeys, hopeless affectation at best
* Middle class (American bourgeoisie) -- Clark Griswold, corporate policy forbids it, they're also too insecure to try anything perceived as unconventional, unwilling to offend anyone or assert themselves at the risk of acceptance, most likely to go along with "gun control" out of fear
* High Prole (petit bourgeoisie) -- often richer than the middle class, displayed in their high-end bass boats, $35K turbo SxS, new Harley or KTM motorcycle, and 45 foot 5th wheel with a new high-end turbo diesel duallie; they're also under less supervision at work than the corporate man or the wage slave below them, they may even own the small business, and they carry
* Mid Prole -- Fred Flintstone, Archie Bunker, Homer Simpson, like the white collar office worker, they're under too much supervision to get away with carry that's against company rules and even if they put it on after work to affect a less supervised high prole, they don't often go anywhere but their own house or Walmart. Even when they travel, it's likely to tourist places like Disney resorts. Most likely to open carry (at Walmart).
* Low Prole -- have a good probability of a criminal record, either felony, drugs, or domestic that keeps them prohibited, most likely to carry illegally but most don't because of the greater probability that even if they're lawful, they live in an area that's overpoliced and they're likely to be harrassed Quite possibly the dumbest crap I have ever read. It's like some azzhat socialist dreamt it up in 1932.... Prole and bourgeois aren't words of 2021, unless someone is reading 1880's manifestos and trying to appear "educated"....
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Gee.......every time I hear these type descriptions, "American bourgeoisie", it always comes from a bitter, misfit, Marxist puke. I guess this is no different.
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Is the growth of actual practice of concealed carry endemic exclusively among high proles, petit-bourgeoisie or the wealthier segment of the working class?
Most often I see it characterized as a thing favored by conservative members of the Republican party and criticized and chastened by liberal members of the Democratic party. Yet it seems equally evident that there are a lot of people, regardless of their political ideology, that do not and will not carry.
* Upper class -- they might own a few Purdeys and if they own a handgun it would be a Webley revolver, but they certainly don't carry it, ever.
* Upper-Middle -- the Mark and Patricia McCloskeys, hopeless affectation at best
* Middle class (American bourgeoisie) -- Clark Griswold, corporate policy forbids it, they're also too insecure to try anything perceived as unconventional, unwilling to offend anyone or assert themselves at the risk of acceptance, most likely to go along with "gun control" out of fear
* High Prole (petit bourgeoisie) -- often richer than the middle class, displayed in their high-end bass boats, $35K turbo SxS, new Harley or KTM motorcycle, and 45 foot 5th wheel with a new high-end turbo diesel duallie; they're also under less supervision at work than the corporate man or the wage slave below them, they may even own the small business, and they carry
* Mid Prole -- Fred Flintstone, Archie Bunker, Homer Simpson, like the white collar office worker, they're under too much supervision to get away with carry that's against company rules and even if they put it on after work to affect a less supervised high prole, they don't often go anywhere but their own house or Walmart. Even when they travel, it's likely to tourist places like Disney resorts. Most likely to open carry (at Walmart).
* Low Prole -- have a good probability of a criminal record, either felony, drugs, or domestic that keeps them prohibited, most likely to carry illegally but most don't because of the greater probability that even if they're lawful, they live in an area that's overpoliced and they're likely to be harrassed Quite possibly the dumbest crap I have ever read. It's like some azzhat socialist dreamt it up in 1932.... Prole and bourgeois aren't words of 2021, unless someone is reading 1880's manifestos and trying to appear "educated".... I guarantee that moron just learned of the word "bourgeois". Probably today. It sounded like a really, really smart thing to say and well... that's how we ended up with this chit stain of a post.
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Sounds French. What the hell does it mean?
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Gee.......every time I hear these type descriptions, "American bourgeoisie", it always comes from a bitter, misfit, Marxist puke. I guess this is no different. Liberal arts degree and can’t pay the student loan payments on the min wage they’re earning at Starbucks while living with their same sex “parents” And think their diploma makes them somehow superior. LMAO.
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Sounds French. What the hell does it mean? Means anyone that could/would kick the OP’s candy ass.
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You forgot American Redneck.
Where are you from?
I'm not surprised at the hostility in this thread since I brought up "class" -- a touchy subject. But I do think where I'm coming from is mistaken, though I'm willing to correct myself which is why I brought this up. My brother was in corporate sales, made a couple million and quit to teach in a government school. His wife he met at university works for an investment bank. They're totally middle class, vote Democrat, and admit they're liberals. Part of my family (prior generation) grew up ranching/farming in the midwest and voted Democrat when it was good for farmers, then worked a career for big defense contractors (voting Reagan/Bush/Republican when it was good for defense). Lived in a suburb with lot of neighbors that were "executive" vice presidents and chief financial officers (successful accountants) or commercial airline pilots. The neighbor kids vacationed at Club Med. Most of them had a few million bucks or more but it was strictly middle class. Now that they're elderly, probably voted for whoever's good for retirees or will give the grandkids free tuition (Bernie). Other part of my family escaped economic catastrophe in Saigon from Vietnamese communism (they also survived the war), and ethnic persecution because they aren't ethnically Vietnamese. Here in the states they own small businesses and commercial real estate. I've never heard them talk politics. They're mostly busy doing their business and making sure all their kids go through university. None of them own guns but not because of any ideological opposition. They're in California. Whenever they come here, I take them shooting and they enjoy it. Their next generation coming up have gone thorough university into corporate California, a bunch of "finance" and "business" degrees and they're not going to carry. American Redneck -- I suppose this could be a perjorative but I went to a Aggy university and all my housemates were proud to be red necks which by my interpretation is just an all American boy that enjoys liberty, country-living, pickup trucks, and fun women. Among the social strata, they became working class. They're definitely not middle-class corporate drones. They liked guns. I used to live in the ghetto, Sal Si Puedes, mostly among Mexican Americans, but there was Vietnamese there too. I'd been to jail many times and was familiar with the criminal class and the streets. If anyone I ever met there was carrying, it wasn't legally. That's where I'm from. I do myself carry concealed every day, everywhere and have daily for 5 years now. I also train with the handgun regularly and have attended schools like Gunsite, ITTS, Thunder Ranch, Rogers etc. I realize those schools tend to attract more affluent working-class clientele (small business owners, well-to-do contractors, retired military, etc.), but I'm also familiar with the habits of people in the local churches. I attend a nondenominational Christian church and have friends in several others. A good portion of them carry. Socially, they're mostly working class, smll business owners and retired people. I'm doubtful that carry is a practice that spans the social strata equally. I'm sure some people will be pissed off that I even suggest there is social strata, and others will be upset that I've suggested a narrowing of the relevance of concealed carry to any kind of minority. Can you convince me that actual practice of concealed carry is really diverse as a rule and not just the exception or ideologically?
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"Wealthy Working Class" Interesting catalogue. It excludes any Democrat.
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The left uses "class" as a manipulating tool. Your post reeks of marxist rhetoric. I'm glad you're not surprised at the vitriol directed at you because it's deserved. I don't care where you're from, your post says all I need to know.
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Is this someone else I need to block?
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I'd like to know why liberals insist on dividing everyone into classes, races, sexual preferences, etc.
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Is this someone else I need to block? Only if you’re scared to stand up to a dumbazz liberal.
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I'd like to know why liberals insist on dividing everyone into classes, races, sexual preferences, etc. Divide and conquer.
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I'd like to know why liberals insist on dividing everyone into classes, races, sexual preferences, etc. Divide and conquer. Yep
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Makes sense. It looks like this clown is doing more dividing than conquering to me.
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I carry anytime I leave our subdivision. I don't care what others think or believe.
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Across the states more and more are allowing permitless carry, sans training or cost. Criminals do not take training or care to abide by rules at all, hence the moniker.
Anyone who thinks police are going to overcheck law abiding citizens when there is such a target rich environment of miscreants, it dreaming, except in those enclaves that lean heavily liberal and offer crime with no arrest and if so, no bail to reenter the fray...
To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.-Richard Henry Lee
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"And Watson! Do not forget your service revolver this evening! Come now, the games afoot!" Automatic revolver. That would be Dashiell Hammett. 🤣😉
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Makes sense. It looks like this ass clown is doing more dividing than conquering to me. Fixed it for you Greg even though you were spot on. Mb
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