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10mm Load Suggestions #16275161 07/23/21
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I have all the usual suspects for powder on hand. I have 180 gr nosler sporting handgun 180 gr gold dot and 180 gr xtp. Data really varies and most of it seems rather mild. Potential guns to use the ammo are a glock 40 with KKM barrel, XDM, SR1911. All have a fully supported chamber so not worried about running hot also have yet to have any 10 mm recoil bother me.

So looking for some tried and true loads that use the full potential of the 10mm and these particular bullets. Probable won't use the sporting handgun for anything other than targets. The other two I want to be capable of any sane application of bullet and cartridge.


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Longshot, Blue Dot, No.9, Silhouette, others of similar burn rate.

Hopefully by "full potential" you don't mean you want to make it a .41 magnum.


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Not looking to turn it in to a 41. Just some data is barely 100 fps over the 40 s+w. I need a bigger gun I got 44s and 480s.

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I was running Longshot and 180 XTPs. Also 200 grain bullets appear interesting but no experience loading those.

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Blue dot is superb with 180s for me, Longshot is my 200 gr load.

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Max load of AA-9

I’ve also used Blue Dot. But if I recall correctly the MFG put out some type of warning recommendation to not use Blue Dot in loading 10mm.
At least I’m fairly sure it was Blue Dot MFG that put out that warning. Could be wrong, though. 😬

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chlinstructor,

Let us know if you can confirm that about not using Blue Dot. I've been using 10 gr of Blue Dot behind the 180 XTP. I've shot 100-200 of those with no issue as yet. The Alliant website is showing a max charge of 11 gr with the 180 gr Speer GDHP.

Thanks!


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Using 180 Grain HAP, 13.8 Grains A#9, CCI large pistol primer, 1.26 OAL 1269 FPS, STD Dev 8 FPS. 5 Inch barrel 1911 pistol. Hornady manual lists maximum charge of A#9 to be 14.9 grains. I was seeing velocities way above book at that charge, then learned Hornady now warns to not exceed 14.2 Grains of A#9. 1270 FPS is plenty for me.

From Hornady Web Site:
Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading – 10th Edition Errata
Page 910, 10mm Auto – 180gr data section, do not exceed 14.2 grains of Accurate No. 9 powder

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Originally Posted by ttpoz
chlinstructor,

Let us know if you can confirm that about not using Blue Dot. I've been using 10 gr of Blue Dot behind the 180 XTP. I've shot 100-200 of those with no issue as yet. The Alliant website is showing a max charge of 11 gr with the 180 gr Speer GDHP.

Thanks!


Yep. I used it for years until I found AA - 9

Maybe it was with the 41 Magnum. It was one of those two calibers. Now I can’t remember which one. It was at least 10 years ago or more. I used Blue Dot quite a bit for 9mm also.
Never had any problems with it.

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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Max load of AA-9

I’ve also used Blue Dot. But if I recall correctly the MFG put out some type of warning recommendation to not use Blue Dot in loading 10mm.
At least I’m fairly sure it was Blue Dot MFG that put out that warning. Could be wrong, though. 😬


I've used Blue Dot for years with no issues. My most recent data from this year: 10.7 Grains Blue Dot, 180 Grain HAP, 1.26 OAL, CCI Large Pistol Primer, 1267 FPS . Primers were pretty flat. I didn't go beyond 10.7 grains due to the flat primers.

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Originally Posted by ttpoz
chlinstructor,

Let us know if you can confirm that about not using Blue Dot. I've been using 10 gr of Blue Dot behind the 180 XTP. I've shot 100-200 of those with no issue as yet. The Alliant website is showing a max charge of 11 gr with the 180 gr Speer GDHP.

Thanks!


My favorite 10mm load is 10 grain of BD behind a 180 grain bullet. I have shot hundreds if not thousands and never had an issue.

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Had a lot of success in my G40 6” with 13.5 grs of Accurate No. 9 and the 180 XTP. Shoots accurately hammers deer pretty dang hard too.

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Longshot will get you mid 1200's for 180 grains, and mid 1100's for 200's, without strain. That is with a stock Glock 20 barrel. With my 6" KKM; add 75-125 fps depending on the load. The longer barrel wakes it up.

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Thanks for the replies. Was leaning longshot and #9 this confirms it.

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9.2grs of Longshot and the 180 xtp is great from mine.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by ttpoz
chlinstructor,

Let us know if you can confirm that about not using Blue Dot. I've been using 10 gr of Blue Dot behind the 180 XTP. I've shot 100-200 of those with no issue as yet. The Alliant website is showing a max charge of 11 gr with the 180 gr Speer GDHP.

Thanks!


Yep. I used it for years until I found AA - 9

Maybe it was with the 41 Magnum. It was one of those two calibers. Now I can’t remember which one. It was at least 10 years ago or more. I used Blue Dot quite a bit for 9mm also.
Never had any problems with it.


IIRC for a short while they said don't use it in any handgun, then they amended the warning to include only .41 magnum and 125 gr .357's. Don't recall why.

Not my personal favorite for 10mm, but it works, I have some 215 gr cast loaded with it now.


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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael


IIRC for a short while they said don't use it in any handgun, then they amended the warning to include only .41 magnum and 125 gr .357's. Don't recall why.

Yes, this is the fact of the matter.

I was using a lot of Blue Dot in the 41 at the time the warning came out.

I still have a few rounds loaded with a 210 over a medium speed load of Blue Dot.

I appreciate the thoughts on the 10mm. I have a new (to me) 1911 to start loading for.

There are 500 new Starline cases with Rem primers waiting on a set of dies. (mid August) I am going to start with Universal and 180 gr Berry's FP, until I get the Universal used up. Then there is a couple pounds each of HS-6 and Titegroup. But I think the Titegroup is better suited to the nine mm, (I am loading for grown kids)


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael


IIRC for a short while they said don't use it in any handgun, then they amended the warning to include only .41 magnum and 125 gr .357's. Don't recall why.

Yes, this is the fact of the matter.

I was using a lot of Blue Dot in the 41 at the time the warning came out.

I still have a few rounds loaded with a 210 over a medium speed load of Blue Dot.

I appreciate the thoughts on the 10mm. I have a new (to me) 1911 to start loading for.

There are 500 new Starline cases with Rem primers waiting on a set of dies. (mid August) I am going to start with Universal and 180 gr Berry's FP, until I get the Universal used up. Then there is a couple pounds each of HS-6 and Titegroup. But I think the Titegroup is better suited to the nine mm, (I am loading for grown kids)


Glad someone cleared that up. I couldn’t remember for sure if it was 10mm or 41 magnum that Blue Dot gave the warning on. Like I said before, I’ve used it in both. Never had any problems.


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I am loading 12.2grs of AA#9 under a 200gr badman hard cast, in new Starline brass. They are running right about 1200fps.
Accuracy is excellent in my G20sf and after market KKM stock length bbl.
Start at 11.6grs and work up using a chronograph.



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