If I get out that way, and if it’s cool enough, I wanna sit right there and drink a beer at that fire pit.
You got it.......
I'm buying.......Bud Lite........
T/storms have brought evening temps down...
Manti Range got hammered yesterday....the Swell too.........
Unusual monsoon pattern this summer....high pressure moved east
Storms come up from AZ.......
I'm just north of CR NP
This Storm system swept threw Our Community in Arizona and washed out 4 roads. One of the video clips our Board of directors sent us was over 60 ft wide who knows how deep. Our Volunteers jumped on it with in hours of the storm moving out and fixed 1 major road so people and contractors could get out. The Storm swept threw again with in 24 hour and took their work out. They were back on it hours after that one past and they are fixing the roads every day until they get them fixed. Our Board of Directors are having meetings on how and where to do permanent improvements like Culverts , Drainage and Spill Walls to slow the damage down when systems like this run threw our Community. I happily pay the fee and I am a year ahead on that payment. With out the POA I would not be able to get in and out of my property Our Board only doe Road stuff nothing about our personal property's. There have been some members of our Community that want to rule everyone and everything they do. I fight them and so do others. Nazi's are everywhere you just need to fight them.
Being dependent sucks.
I have a 9 1/2 mile of hills and curves to drive to get away from everyone. When I go to my property i hear maybe 3 vehicles in 3 weeks. You call me paying my POA dependency. I have a small tractor I guess I could box blade the road myself every time I go up there. That 9 1/2 miles of road would probably take me a week or two to make it passable if no one up there did it for me. I gladly pay the Dues. I do not consider it dependence. I also have a 1 ton 4 X 4 I pull a Gooseneck with to get supply's up to my property to build my place up. It would sure Suck to have to fix the road in areas every time I went up there. I will be going up in a week or so and those roads will be open for me not to waste any time on for my own projects. People are Dependent on the Gooberment for Road Maintenance. Our Community does not pay the Gooberment so we pay to Maintain it our selves. I feel better paying our POA rather than Paying some Gooberment Bureaucracy that tells me what I can put out on the road and what I can not put out on the road. Dependency is a frame of mind and who you are really dependent on. I choose as you say to be dependent on a small POA rather than dependent on a big Gooberment.
You defined dependent BTW.
You couldn't access your property unless everyone else chipped in........
It is no different than paying outrageous taxes to have the Gooberment take care of the roads for everyone with a vehicle. I do have a say in how my POA dues are spent. They appointed me to the board to fill an open seat for a years. So I got a front row seat on watching how our POA was run and how members of our Community treated the Board. I am dependent but so it everyone that drives our road to the Gooberment.
If I get out that way, and if it’s cool enough, I wanna sit right there and drink a beer at that fire pit.
You got it.......
I'm buying.......Bud Lite........
T/storms have brought evening temps down...
Manti Range got hammered yesterday....the Swell too.........
Unusual monsoon pattern this summer....high pressure moved east
Storms come up from AZ.......
I'm just north of CR NP
This Storm system swept threw Our Community in Arizona and washed out 4 roads. One of the video clips our Board of directors sent us was over 60 ft wide who knows how deep. Our Volunteers jumped on it with in hours of the storm moving out and fixed 1 major road so people and contractors could get out. The Storm swept threw again with in 24 hour and took their work out. They were back on it hours after that one past and they are fixing the roads every day until they get them fixed. Our Board of Directors are having meetings on how and where to do permanent improvements like Culverts , Drainage and Spill Walls to slow the damage down when systems like this run threw our Community. I happily pay the fee and I am a year ahead on that payment. With out the POA I would not be able to get in and out of my property Our Board only doe Road stuff nothing about our personal property's. There have been some members of our Community that want to rule everyone and everything they do. I fight them and so do others. Nazi's are everywhere you just need to fight them.
Being dependent sucks.
I have a 9 1/2 mile of hills and curves to drive to get away from everyone. When I go to my property i hear maybe 3 vehicles in 3 weeks. You call me paying my POA dependency. I have a small tractor I guess I could box blade the road myself every time I go up there. That 9 1/2 miles of road would probably take me a week or two to make it passable if no one up there did it for me. I gladly pay the Dues. I do not consider it dependence. I also have a 1 ton 4 X 4 I pull a Gooseneck with to get supply's up to my property to build my place up. It would sure Suck to have to fix the road in areas every time I went up there. I will be going up in a week or so and those roads will be open for me not to waste any time on for my own projects. People are Dependent on the Gooberment for Road Maintenance. Our Community does not pay the Gooberment so we pay to Maintain it our selves. I feel better paying our POA rather than Paying some Gooberment Bureaucracy that tells me what I can put out on the road and what I can not put out on the road. Dependency is a frame of mind and who you are really dependent on. I choose as you say to be dependent on a small POA rather than dependent on a big Gooberment.
You defined dependent BTW.
You couldn't access your property unless everyone else chipped in........
It is no different than paying outrageous taxes to have the Gooberment take care of the roads for everyone with a vehicle. I do have a say in how my POA dues are spent. They appointed me to the board to fill an open seat for a years. So I got a front row seat on watching how our POA was run and how members of our Community treated the Board. I am dependent but so it everyone that drives our road to the Gooberment.
POAs needs to have the force of law behind them and limited durations of elected office holders.
It’s very easy to allow them to slip into a situation like, say, the NRA is presently in.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
We ain't got no HOA. Don't even have a road agreement.
Apparently the bank doesn't like it. Last few folks that looked to move in got a hard time from the bank about borrowing money for a property on a road with no agreement for maintenance.
I'm sure not in a hurry to get one together.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
2 decades ago we had a house in a neighborhood. There was an HOA, it was a one time $100 fee when you moved into the neighborhood. I don't know if any board even existed. Of course my neighbors were raided by metro narcotics for running drugs from Florida. Not sure anyone cared about what I did.
you almost can't purchase a decent house in a respectable neighborhood that's safe and clean in Las Vegas without belonging to a HOA.
Also, any beach condo you buy in Alabama or the Florida panhandle is going to have HOA management. I drive a RAM 3500 Dually and a F-250 w the 7.3.
About the same here in SW Florida. If you cant buy a huge tract of land to shield your property from redneck heaven next door the skitters will ruin any enjoyment you get out of owning a rural property.
I live in a nice, clean very peaceful , pretty subdivision with a HOA . Behind my place is a large lake and a nice church on the other side. Oak trees and palms everywhere. I never have had a problem. Haven't seen a Subaru around here lately plenty of them small suv vehicles. I drive a Chevy Silverado. Plenty of pickup parked around the block if that helps. This subdivision is full of snowbirds so many of the residents are gone from easter to thanksgiving.
Back where and when I grew up you could buy a nice rural farm property. These days a farm property is out of reach for most people if you can even find one for sale and rural living mostly means a small lot along a rural road next to a unmaintained house with six of the guys last seven ford taurus parked in the front lawn on blocks and weeds growing through the hood.
At my age Im not all that interested in working all week and spending the weekend repairing my property. My living situation affords me the ability to toss my gear in my truck and go on a hunting or fishing trip by just locking the door and turning the water off at the house. Moving somewhere else aint a good option for my career at my age. I plan to take more trips even than I do now over the next decade and I don't want to be worrying about my property or animals when Im gone. Im single and likely to remain that way so theres no one back home keeping things going when I am gone. My lifestyle and living in suburbia dont work for everyone but I enjoy it greatly.
I find many people that run into trouble with the hoa are those that didn't take the time to read the docs before they bought and those folks that try and use the property in an inappropriate way. If you have a lot of toys the way I live aint for you. I rent a warehouse for cheap in Alabama near where I hunt and keep my atvs and a lot of hunting gear up there. I lock the doors and come and go as I please.
I feel like I live in HOA now thanks to the government, don't we all? They tell me where I can't dig, when I can or can't burn, heck they even told me where I had to dump my sheit. We have no building codes yet, just a septic tank and drain line inspection. The he'll with living with a bunch of people and abiding by more rules.
paying taxes so the county or state can maintain roads so people can accesses their property.....is no different than paying into a hoa to maintain roads in a rural area....but some people like and try to feel superior to others....bob
When we first married, we paid $200/month to one. They maintained the paved road, paid for trash pickup, had the sewer/water system...... 100+ trailers in that one.
Was definitely different to a young guy used to burning the garbage, and dumping the food scraps out by the crick. Sure wasn't shooting in the back yard anymore.
Then one day BANG, BANG, BANG! The old bitch that ran the place was on the porch. When I opened the door, she stuck a piece of paper in my face, And walked away!
WTF!
She had decided my oil barrel needs painted. Why the heck didn't she just tell me?
Wait a minute! I have 30 days to comply, or be evicted! WTF!*&%$#@!!*(>_=÷-!!!!!!
The cocksukers are threatening to evict me. And they never even bothered to just say, "Your oil barrel has some rust, might want to paint it".
Came around again when the inspection sticker and registration on a car expired. Again, the Gestapo Knock, a threat to evict shoved in my face.
As soon as we could, we GTFO!
And before we agree to buy this hovel in a fancy development, The first thing I made sure of was NO HOA!
A road maintenance agreement, a deal for a dumpster at the end of the road? That would be fine. But Ive got the Fed's, The state police, Possum cops, dog cops, county commisionser, township supervisors..... all wanting to screw with you. I sure as hell ain't giving a couple rich old bastards, with nothing better to do than mow and deadhead flowers, the power to determine the color of my new roof, how I mow the grass, whether I spray my yard, kind of dog......F' NO!
And if you think others have a right to tell me that stuff, please don't move here.
And IDGAF if you think your state is better than this one, hell, I might agree.
But I'd rather live free, in a travel trailer in the woods in Northern Ca, than l under a totalitarian HOA in Missoula.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!