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Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? battue #16278766 07/24/21
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4	Originally Posted by battue Campfire guilt can only be removed by a personal confession with Happy Camper. I don't think that'll work, confession being for Catholic idolaters.

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Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Wrongside #16278839 07/24/21
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 OP Campfire Ranger
OP Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon	Originally Posted by Wrongside Originally Posted by Judman Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Beaver10 It was a little obvious that the core group of defenders of mechanics over glass in scopes were absent from this thread for the most part. Paging....JORDAN ! 😬 🦫 PS I figure the guys who run dials, also know how to read, and can comprehend what they read...They saw nothing here worth chatting about, because this wasn’t about glass over dialing, just a straightforward glass quality in a scope question. There’s room in hunting for everyone to own, use, and be successful hunting with whatever they feel will work for them in their necks of the wilderness. Hah, you got that right, Beav! If we're talking about sacrificing mechanics (holding zero, tracking, etc.) to get a marginal increase in optical performance, then it becomes a different conversation! A simple discussion about each person's choice of where to land on the sliding scale of optical quality is just that, simple. Depending on what a guy uses his scope for, and what he wants to do, non-alpha glass is perfectly fine until it isn't. For what I do, sub-alpha glass is perfectly fine in my riflescopes. Just a little question Jordan, as you know I have pards and hunt Alberta as well, just how much hunting do you get to do yearly? I know/think whitetail tags are yearly, Muleys are hard to draw, and moose are even harder than that to draw. Are you hunting other provinces? Thanks Absolutely do NOT answer that question Jordan. We don’t need hordes more peeps moving here. 🤪 Trudeau, no pistols, and Trudeau. Enough said. Laffin 🦫 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? battue #16278843 07/24/21
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 OP Campfire Ranger
OP Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon	Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by Beaver10 Originally Posted by SLM A mechanical? You nuts? Everyone knows a mechanical is inferior to a fixed. Originally Posted by Beaver10 Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Originally Posted by battue https://www.chiefaj.com/products/north-american-big-game-edition I need to put you on ignore.....I'm probably going to end up ordering one of those like a grade school kid ordering x-ray glasses..... I’m thinking a mechanical broadhead would be the ticket in #40lb pull. 👍🏼🦫 But, but, those have exposed razor edges that look scary. Laffin 🦫 Rage broadheads are “Alpha”…. Paul Barnard said “OMEGA” is the schnitzel 😬🦫 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Springcove #16278847 07/24/21
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 OP Campfire Ranger
OP Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon	Originally Posted by Springcove So am I’m suppose to feel guilt because all the critters I have killed have been with Nikon, Bushnell, Bausch & Laum, Sightron and my one and only Leupold? There also maybe a Tasko or Simmons on one of my 22s. I apologize to anyone I have offended for using such inferior glass. I also apologize for not using spellcheck… I’m gonna scrutinize this later for any errors or opportunities to make fun of you... 😂🦫 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Beaver10 #16278850 07/24/21
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Originally Posted by Beaver10 Until I’m able to beat an elk to death with my binoculars - I will use pretty good glass in my scopes. 😬 🦫 Me too!! 😂😂 screenshot program Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

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Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Beaver10 #16278887 07/24/21
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 7,008 Back of the Wasatch S Springcove Campfire Tracker
Springcove Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 7,008 Back of the Wasatch	Originally Posted by Beaver10 Originally Posted by Springcove So am I’m suppose to feel guilt because all the critters I have killed have been with Nikon, Bushnell, Bausch & Laum, Sightron and my one and only Leupold? There also maybe a Tasko or Simmons on one of my 22s. I apologize to anyone I have offended for using such inferior glass. I also apologize for not using spellcheck… I’m gonna scrutinize this later for any errors or opportunities to make fun of you... 😂🦫 I would expect nothing less from you or anyone else here. 😂

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Beaver10 #16279045 07/24/21
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 357 T Tony_Soprano Campfire Member
Tony_Soprano Campfire Member T Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 357	Well it's kinda like reloading. Is reloading necessary for hunting? No. Is it better? Yes. Is top shelf glass necessary for hunting? No. Is it better? Yes. The bottom line is buy the best glass you can afford. It is definitely worth it. To say otherwise is disingenuous.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Beaver10 #16279054 07/24/21
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Is a vx1 “alpha”? I’ve killed some damn nice critters with a vx1 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? battue #16279131 07/24/21
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,102 Likes: 6 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana
smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,102 Likes: 6 Colorado	Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by Beaver10 Originally Posted by SLM A mechanical? You nuts? Everyone knows a mechanical is inferior to a fixed. Originally Posted by Beaver10 Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Originally Posted by battue https://www.chiefaj.com/products/north-american-big-game-edition I need to put you on ignore.....I'm probably going to end up ordering one of those like a grade school kid ordering x-ray glasses..... I’m thinking a mechanical broadhead would be the ticket in #40lb pull. 👍🏼🦫 But, but, those have exposed razor edges that look scary. Laffin 🦫 Rage broadheads are “Alpha”…. They look really badass next to my tats. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Judman #16279134 07/24/21
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,102 Likes: 6 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana
smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,102 Likes: 6 Colorado	Originally Posted by Judman Originally Posted by Beaver10 Until I’m able to beat an elk to death with my binoculars - I will use pretty good glass in my scopes. 😬 🦫 Me too!! 😂😂 What?? I thought you said you'd beat a bull to death with your Leupolds, and they were still in focus when you were done? A wise man is frequently humbled.

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Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Judman #16279137 07/24/21
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 18,927 NM S SLM Campfire Ranger
SLM Campfire Ranger S Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 18,927 NM	But have you shot 10 shot groups with it? Originally Posted by Judman Is a vx1 “alpha”? I’ve killed some damn nice critters with a vx1

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? smokepole #16279148 07/24/21
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Originally Posted by smokepole Originally Posted by Judman Originally Posted by Beaver10 Until I’m able to beat an elk to death with my binoculars - I will use pretty good glass in my scopes. 😬 🦫 Me too!! 😂😂 What?? I thought you said you'd beat a bull to death with your Leupolds, and they were still in focus when you were done? Those are custom leupold sites brother!! 🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? SLM #16279151 07/24/21
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Originally Posted by SLM But have you shot 10 shot groups with it? Originally Posted by Judman Is a vx1 “alpha”? I’ve killed some damn nice critters with a vx1 Anymore I just go shoot my 300 yard gong. 😎👍 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Judman #16279163 07/24/21
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,245 Likes: 11 T_Inman Campfire Ranger
T_Inman Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,245 Likes: 11	How about a Nikon Prostaff? Is that Alpha? Pointer here will know exactly what I am getting at....

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? smokepole #16279597 07/24/21
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh	Originally Posted by smokepole Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by Beaver10 Originally Posted by SLM A mechanical? You nuts? Everyone knows a mechanical is inferior to a fixed. Originally Posted by Beaver10 Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Originally Posted by battue https://www.chiefaj.com/products/north-american-big-game-edition I need to put you on ignore.....I'm probably going to end up ordering one of those like a grade school kid ordering x-ray glasses..... I’m thinking a mechanical broadhead would be the ticket in #40lb pull. 👍🏼🦫 But, but, those have exposed razor edges that look scary. Laffin 🦫 Rage broadheads are “Alpha”…. They look really badass next to my tats. Tats???? You made me think of the possibilities...Leupold should include this sticker in every scope box...The "Leupold Duplex" sticker...Soon one would be in every truck window...Well maybe not Jordans....Right next to the Browning Buck logo... And finish it off with a set of truck nuts!!!! Last edited by battue; 07/24/21. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Judman #16281240 07/25/21
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by Judman Originally Posted by Wrongside Originally Posted by Judman Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Beaver10 It was a little obvious that the core group of defenders of mechanics over glass in scopes were absent from this thread for the most part. Paging....JORDAN ! 😬 🦫 PS I figure the guys who run dials, also know how to read, and can comprehend what they read...They saw nothing here worth chatting about, because this wasn’t about glass over dialing, just a straightforward glass quality in a scope question. There’s room in hunting for everyone to own, use, and be successful hunting with whatever they feel will work for them in their necks of the wilderness. Hah, you got that right, Beav! If we're talking about sacrificing mechanics (holding zero, tracking, etc.) to get a marginal increase in optical performance, then it becomes a different conversation! A simple discussion about each person's choice of where to land on the sliding scale of optical quality is just that, simple. Depending on what a guy uses his scope for, and what he wants to do, non-alpha glass is perfectly fine until it isn't. For what I do, sub-alpha glass is perfectly fine in my riflescopes. Just a little question Jordan, as you know I have pards and hunt Alberta as well, just how much hunting do you get to do yearly? I know/think whitetail tags are yearly, Muleys are hard to draw, and moose are even harder than that to draw. Are you hunting other provinces? Thanks Absolutely do NOT answer that question Jordan. We don’t need hordes more peeps moving here. 🤪 I realize there are more opportunities, does he take advantage of them though? Jud, I hunt more than most, but less than some. I get plenty of opportunities to pull the trigger on game, in addition to accompanying, or often even informally guiding, friends/family and witnessing them pull the trigger. Most of that has been in AB, but not all. In AB, the difficulty for residents to draw MD and moose tags varies widely by zone and hunt type. Let's just say that for the last couple of decades my deep freezes have been completely filled every year with an assortment of WT, MD, elk, moose, BH sheep, pronghorn, black bear, and caribou meat, on top of giving away a bunch of meat that I didn't have room for. My wife and I are raising four kids, and have never needed to buy non-wild meat (once in a while we buy something just for a little variety, but never because of need). We get plenty of BG opportunities as residents here in AB, and I personally take advantage of a bunch of them each year.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Beaver10 #16281345 07/25/21
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Copy. Pards get real excited when they draw a muley tag, and real real excited when they draw moose. Guess they don’t care enough to head up north where the tags are easier, they sure get into huntin close to home. 👍 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Judman #16282043 07/25/21
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada	Yeah, certain MD tags are very desirable and difficult to draw. Moose is more a matter of convenience. If you want to hunt in a zone that is close to the larger cities, you'll have to wait several years to do it. If a guy is willing to drive a bit, as I am, then moose can be had much, much more frequently.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Judman #16289524 07/27/21
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,183 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Originally Posted by Judman Is a vx1 “alpha”? I’ve killed some damn nice critters with a vx1 ?? Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: How important is alpha scope glass for your hunts ? Judman #16289531 07/27/21
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4	I've done in a few pigs with a Vari-X II. Where does that stand? Kappa? Lambda? Mu?

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