paying taxes so the county or state can maintain roads so people can accesses their property.....is no different than paying into a hoa to maintain roads in a rural area....but some people like and try to feel superior to others....bob
You make it sound like it's either/or.
You are also paying the county and state. And the HOA. Another layer of fees/regulation, dependency.
As a youngster, we had 3/4 mile of dirt road to our 1/2 mile dirt driveway. On the Allegheny Plateau.
It showed!
Dad took care of our road. And in bad storms, the township road too, even beyond our driveway. The neighbors needed open roads.
One doesn't NEED an HOA.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Several members here let members live rent free in their heads. Get a life . Go for a walk. Give your dog a good bath . Go buy local goods. If that doesn’t work , google life coach
FUGK CCP
It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
If I get out that way, and if it’s cool enough, I wanna sit right there and drink a beer at that fire pit.
You got it.......
I'm buying.......Bud Lite........
T/storms have brought evening temps down...
Manti Range got hammered yesterday....the Swell too.........
Unusual monsoon pattern this summer....high pressure moved east
Storms come up from AZ.......
I'm just north of CR NP
This Storm system swept threw Our Community in Arizona and washed out 4 roads. One of the video clips our Board of directors sent us was over 60 ft wide who knows how deep. Our Volunteers jumped on it with in hours of the storm moving out and fixed 1 major road so people and contractors could get out. The Storm swept threw again with in 24 hour and took their work out. They were back on it hours after that one past and they are fixing the roads every day until they get them fixed. Our Board of Directors are having meetings on how and where to do permanent improvements like Culverts , Drainage and Spill Walls to slow the damage down when systems like this run threw our Community. I happily pay the fee and I am a year ahead on that payment. With out the POA I would not be able to get in and out of my property Our Board only doe Road stuff nothing about our personal property's. There have been some members of our Community that want to rule everyone and everything they do. I fight them and so do others. Nazi's are everywhere you just need to fight them.
Being dependent sucks.
I have a 9 1/2 mile of hills and curves to drive to get away from everyone. When I go to my property i hear maybe 3 vehicles in 3 weeks. You call me paying my POA dependency. I have a small tractor I guess I could box blade the road myself every time I go up there. That 9 1/2 miles of road would probably take me a week or two to make it passable if no one up there did it for me. I gladly pay the Dues. I do not consider it dependence. I also have a 1 ton 4 X 4 I pull a Gooseneck with to get supply's up to my property to build my place up. It would sure Suck to have to fix the road in areas every time I went up there. I will be going up in a week or so and those roads will be open for me not to waste any time on for my own projects. People are Dependent on the Gooberment for Road Maintenance. Our Community does not pay the Gooberment so we pay to Maintain it our selves. I feel better paying our POA rather than Paying some Gooberment Bureaucracy that tells me what I can put out on the road and what I can not put out on the road. Dependency is a frame of mind and who you are really dependent on. I choose as you say to be dependent on a small POA rather than dependent on a big Gooberment.
You defined dependent BTW.
You couldn't access your property unless everyone else chipped in........
It is no different than paying outrageous taxes to have the Gooberment take care of the roads for everyone with a vehicle. I do have a say in how my POA dues are spent. They appointed me to the board to fill an open seat for a years. So I got a front row seat on watching how our POA was run and how members of our Community treated the Board. I am dependent but so it everyone that drives our road to the Gooberment.
POAs needs to have the force of law behind them and limited durations of elected office holders.
It’s very easy to allow them to slip into a situation like, say, the NRA is presently in.
I agree 100% We had a Bunch of Control Freaks running our Board of directors. They told me that I could not work on my own property and that I could only Hire whom they told me to hire to do the work I wanted done. That did not set well with me so I started fighting them out in front of the masses (Verbally). There were other members of our Community that felt the same way I did but were intimidated into submission . Long story short. The good guys looking out for the entire Community took the board over and that is when they appointed me onto the Board to shove it up the hind ends of those control freaks. Half way threw my term on the board the control freaks took back the board majority. It was game on I sat on the Board and seen everything that was going on and I informed everyone in our Community what was going on when I legally could do so. The next go around with the voting the god guys took back control. Our Ex control freak President Sold his property with out notifying the Board that he was part of. The BEOTCH that told me that I could not work my property (a realtor) purchased a sq mile of State Trust Property and started her own Commune our Ex control freak president purchased property in that commune one other board member purchased one of her lots as well. Several Control Freaks in our community have moved out leaving the other control freaks with no backing and support so they have stopped for the time being with their crap. We just had an election and it went the way of the good guys.
When you have a fighting chance to take control over from the control freaks you need to fight with everything you have.
Unfortunately Commyfornia is lost and we will never be able to get control back short of blood shed. Time for me to leave and get to Arizona as soon as I can. When I get there I may just run for a board position when it is time just to show the control freaks that I am still around and fighting for the freedoms of our Community.
At times the area that my property is in is the Wild Wild West. I have been warned many times Even from members on the Fire in Pm's. You can never stop fighting the control freaks and our POA Board gives us a more legal way of fighting the local Nazi's types. With out our POA Board it would be every man , women and child for them selves against the controllers.
I had a lot of quiet support in our Community for standing up for our American Freedoms.
When we first married, we paid $200/month to one. They maintained the paved road, paid for trash pickup, had the sewer/water system...... 100+ trailers in that one.
Was definitely different to a young guy used to burning the garbage, and dumping the food scraps out by the crick. Sure wasn't shooting in the back yard anymore.
Then one day BANG, BANG, BANG! The old bitch that ran the place was on the porch. When I opened the door, she stuck a piece of paper in my face, And walked away!
WTF!
She had decided my oil barrel needs painted. Why the heck didn't she just tell me?
Wait a minute! I have 30 days to comply, or be evicted! WTF!*&%$#@!!*(>_=÷-!!!!!!
The cocksukers are threatening to evict me. And they never even bothered to just say, "Your oil barrel has some rust, might want to paint it".
Came around again when the inspection sticker and registration on a car expired. Again, the Gestapo Knock, a threat to evict shoved in my face.
As soon as we could, we GTFO!
And before we agree to buy this hovel in a fancy development, The first thing I made sure of was NO HOA!
A road maintenance agreement, a deal for a dumpster at the end of the road? That would be fine. But Ive got the Fed's, The state police, Possum cops, dog cops, county commisionser, township supervisors..... all wanting to screw with you. I sure as hell ain't giving a couple rich old bastards, with nothing better to do than mow and deadhead flowers, the power to determine the color of my new roof, how I mow the grass, whether I spray my yard, kind of dog......F' NO!
And if you think others have a right to tell me that stuff, please don't move here.
And IDGAF if you think your state is better than this one, hell, I might agree.
But I'd rather live free, in a travel trailer in the woods in Northern Ca, than l under a totalitarian HOA in Missoula.
So there........
It's official. I missed the selfie deadline so I'm Maser's sock puppet because rene and the Polish half of the fubar twins have decided that I am.
i have an 85 Crown Vic station wagon I should get going.
Its a nice light tan.
LOL.... Like I said earlier, you da' man. Get the droopy headliner fixed. It could be bad juju if it fell down over your face at 30 mph in the "city" in front of the General Mercantile.
My Challenger is metallic grey. And it goes.........
It's official. I missed the selfie deadline so I'm Maser's sock puppet because rene and the Polish half of the fubar twins have decided that I am.
Here are the specs on my Camry. Mine has the 8-speed auto. It's snappy. Will it hold with your Woody at the "city" stop light? After you get the head liner repaired so you can "go fast"? 2021 R/T Scat Pack Boosts the Challenger's performance with:
6.4-liter V8 engine (485 hp, 475 lb-ft) Eight-speed automatic or six-speed manual transmission Launch control Brembo performance brake system High-performance suspension Xenon headlights Heated steering wheel and heated front seats Uconnect 4C infotainment system with 8.4-inch touchscreen Premium six-speaker audio system Configurable drive modes Scat Pack-specific exterior styling details 20" Wheels/Tires
It's official. I missed the selfie deadline so I'm Maser's sock puppet because rene and the Polish half of the fubar twins have decided that I am.