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Sure, it's your choice to not get vaccinated, but the consequences are yours too, all choices have consequences good or bad, you could unknowingly give it to someone else and kill them. I'm vaccinated, it was an easy choice for me, but my 81 year old, recently widowed, mother is not and I check on her and help her out every other day or so. I could be asymptomatic and pass it to her. It's a personal choice but it affects you and everyone you come in contact with.

Sure, it's your choice to not get vaccinated, but the consequences are yours too, all choices have consequences good or bad, you could unknowingly give it to someone else and kill them. I'm vaccinated, it was an easy choice for me, but my 81 year old, recently widowed, mother is not and I check on her and help her out every other day or so. I could be asymptomatic and pass it to her. It's a personal choice but it affects you and everyone you come in contact with.

Mom made her choice? That's up to her.
This is exactly what I am getting at, everyone has had a chance.

And you're expecting an honest answer here ??????????????

Honest?

Or do you mean authoritative?

Or true?

NYC just announced mandatory vax for employees or else. Newsom just announced all .gov employees vax or else. Things are escalating.

I know, thousandth thread on the subject but I can not wrap my head around the lack of some peoples ability to see the simplicity in this.

If the vax works, great, you live. I die.
If the vax works, great, you live. Grandma, Grandpa, Uncle, Neighbor Bob dies, that's their choice.

Whats the problem?

"So what if the health care system gets swamped and everyone dies. You won't."
Think about it, what if you or a family member has a heart attack, stroke, or are in a bad accident and need to be admitted to an ICU that is overflowing with covid patients.
Still don't think you will be affected?

"So what if the health care system gets swamped and everyone dies. You won't."
Think about it, what if you or a family member has a heart attack, stroke, or are in a bad accident and need to be admitted to an ICU that is overflowing with covid patients.
Still don't think you will be affected?

Talked to a really nice guy the other day, about 40 years old, known him all my life. He's a salesman and says people are starting to get mad at him when they find out he's not taken the jab. Mad that he's exercising his freedom of choice and they don't like his choices. He's basically always got a smile on his face, but he looked rather angry when he told me that he wished people would just shut up and quit asking everybody else if they got the shot. It's getting to be a polarizing thing.

He shouldn't answer that question if asked

I’ve tried to work this out in my mind over and over and given so many of the recent news items with people vaccinated getting/spreading the disease.

The only conclusion I can come to is that this push has more to do with somehow condition citizens to be more like subjects. Using social pressure (vs governmental) they’ll encourage those who are vaccinated to marginalize those who aren’t. Through fears of litigiousness big corps will block services and/or perhaps even employment. Big tech will suppress opposing viewpoints so as to create the illusion that there isn’t information that challenges establishment narratives.

As you can see from responses here, even questioning the incongruences in the popular narrative will elicit accusations that you’re killing people or anti-science. Proof that the above-described efforts are yielding fruit not just amongst the mindless sheeple who unquestioningly consume and regurgitate Corp Media talking points.

The vax has been widely available now. If you wanted it you got it. If you didn't, you didn't.

So, you got it because you believe it will protect you from dying, correct?

My question is, if someone does not want it, even with all of the variants, why do you care? Why does .gov care? So what if the health care system gets swamped and everyone dies. You won't. Eventually there will be only like minded vaccinated individuals left. Correct? And, if an unvaccinated person spreads it they are only going to harm others that are unvaccinated. Correct?

What am I missing?

And this is an honest question.

The vax has been widely available now. If you wanted it you got it. If you didn't, you didn't.

So, you got it because you believe it will protect you from dying, correct?

My question is, if someone does not want it, even with all of the variants, why do you care? Why does .gov care? So what if the health care system gets swamped and everyone dies. You won't. Eventually there will be only like minded vaccinated individuals left. Correct? And, if an unvaccinated person spreads it they are only going to harm others that are unvaccinated. Correct?

What am I missing?

And this is an honest question.

The vax has been widely available now. If you wanted it you got it. If you didn't, you didn't.

So, you got it because you believe it will protect you from dying, correct?

My question is, if someone does not want it, even with all of the variants, why do you care? Why does .gov care? So what if the health care system gets swamped and everyone dies. You won't. Eventually there will be only like minded vaccinated individuals left. Correct? And, if an unvaccinated person spreads it they are only going to harm others that are unvaccinated. Correct?

What am I missing?

And this is an honest question.