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The great 200gr Nosler Partition at 2700 fps over H-4831, RL-22 or 7828, if one wishes to pay attention and entertain oneself, a drop tube and H-4831 SC under the 200gr Partitions will run an easy 2800+ fps at 3.340", loaded one WW-Super case 5 times in a 24 inch barreled pre-64 '06, primer pocket still tight, crazy, but the Old Warhorse is a "hammer!"
I have never seen a 200 NP launched at 2800 fps + safely. I have seen it break 2700 but not 2800. Yep, easily and safely done Fotis, ballistician at Nosler stated you couldn't get enough H-4831 in an '06 case to run into trouble, i had to see for myself, another forum member on this sight went a hell of a lot higher than me, he can chime in if he see's fit.
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2750 is easy.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That'll work pathfinder76, nice looking rifle there, iirc it was beretzs that told me he thought RL-26 would make the heavies sing in the '06, good work.
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I never was wild about the 180 in the 30-06. I like a 150 the best Even for moose and elk? No. Then I use the 180 The thread is about which "one" bullet would you use. Why not simplify chidt and just use a 180 for everything? I used to use a 165 Hornady SP interlock in all of my 06 rifles. Damn good bullet. Some say the "poor man's partition", then I tried 180's, then I narrowed it down to the 200gr Nosler partition for everything now. "No fuss, no muss". It simply gets the job done on everything.. The reason I switched from the 180 is because I've seen elk catch them. The 200gr partition just sails clean through. Puts deer and elk down quick too.. So since I've hunted Moose three times and never hunted Elk I should use 180's on the deer I hunt every year?
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Save your time & energy. Comprende' ?
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I have successfully killed Deer (Arizona Mule) and Elk with 130 TTSX and Varget. I have successfully killed Elk with 168gr Berger Hybrid Hunter (Federal Factory load - really goods stuff if you can find it). I have seen 150gr SST's (factory loads) fail on Cow Elks. BUT I've met others who swear there is no finer bullet so... YMMV I've seen Hornady SST's fail on antelope and mule deer. IMO they suck. I'm curious, did they fail to hold together or did they have that "blow up" effect? Reason being I've been using 180 SST's on deer and have had good success but have heard from people that they've had issues with penetration.
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Save your time & energy. Comprende' ? Good point. I've been down this road before with him
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Lovely rifle.
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And on and on and on....
Might just as easily sum it up with Phil Shoemaker's sig-line: "Anyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship."
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Yup ^^^
In thinking about this thread I remember as a young teenager in CA shooting a small spike/fork blacktail with a 110gr Speer Plinker or something similar at around 1500fps or less that I used as a rabbit round. Deer went straight down at around 80 yards. Got me thinking about how really capable the round must be when loaded with full house 180’s which I most commonly used on hogs in those days.
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A bullet for the lower 48 more than what you need for a deer but a Barnes a 168 grain ttsx or Nosler 180 grain Partion or Accubond would be tough to beat for a do anything bullet in all 50 states. This is pretty much what I was thinking. I’d try 180 Partition or 180 Accubond. If I couldn’t get either of those to shoot, then a lighter mono-metal bullet would be my next choice.
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165gr Interlock - goes back in my life 35 years of clean consistent kills. Exactly what I was thinking, and for basically the same reason. I have gone slumming and used about everything at one time or another. Least favorite was the 165 Hot Core or the BarnesX, tough choice, and for opposite reasons.
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180 Partition or Accubonds take your pick.
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Another vote for the 200 Partition. Unbelievable performance.
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I loaded the 150 Hornady sp for guys in Texas, years ago. It was awesome on those little SE Texas deer/hogs. I shot the 150CL in the 06 for years but found the "then new" Federal Red Box loaded with the Sierra 165GK shot better in Dads old Mod 742 I was using. It also made less of a mess on deer. My long deceased Father in Law shot the Federal Red Box 150s, usually. One time he used the .22 Accelarator loads, never checked his zero, ha. He did manage to kill a buck out around 300yds (on a pipeline) but he was aiming behind the shoulder and it hit him in the rump shell. He bled out before he got to him. ha A favorite uncle used whatever anyone gave him. One year I was with him and he shot a doe around 50yds in the neck. It made a saucer sized shallow mess just under the skin, totally fragmented to dust! Killed her though. I asked what he used and he showed me some handloads a friend gave him with Match Bullets! From then on, I bought him a box of those Remington 150clkts, ha. I suspect many use one load only because they are either a Seasonal hunter, or a looney who "simplified" his loading regimen for favorite rifles he most surely has! ha Even when I had only one rifle ( at different times of my life, I had to simplify) but I love handloading/shooting, so hey, I want to try them all!
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[quote=PintsofCraft]165gr Interlock - goes back in my life 35 years of clean consistent kills. One of my long time favorites as well.
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I never was wild about the 180 in the 30-06. I like a 150 the best Even for moose and elk? No. Then I use the 180 The thread is about which "one" bullet would you use. Why not simplify chidt and just use a 180 for everything? I used to use a 165 Hornady SP interlock in all of my 06 rifles. Damn good bullet. Some say the "poor man's partition", then I tried 180's, then I narrowed it down to the 200gr Nosler partition for everything now. "No fuss, no muss". It simply gets the job done on everything.. The reason I switched from the 180 is because I've seen elk catch them. The 200gr partition just sails clean through. Puts deer and elk down quick too.. So since I've hunted Moose three times and never hunted Elk I should use 180's on the deer I hunt every year? If you could only have 1 bullet, YES 180's.
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i inherited a real nice pre-64 30-06 Winchester made around 1950 another friend before he died gave a few thousand bullets in 30 caliber and a bunch of them are 165 Nosler partitions that are 20 some years old so that`s what bullet i will be using the 165 Nosler Partitions for deer in Minnesota this year most of the time. good luck to all,Pete53
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180 gr Partition. Soft up front for expansion on deer and 'lopes; but will penetrate for elk. This would be one bullet style and weight for all North American game.
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