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Good thing you spot tested first. Oh wait..... Ahhh varying wood density and varying grain exposure might play a part ya think!!!! πππππ
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On birch stocks, I have had great success using Rit clothes die. wipe it on until you get the look you want,let dry, then use a clear coat over it. Gloss, or semi gloss. I guess its more like painting instead of staining.
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It'll actually be alright when he puts some finish on it. Danish oil offers little to no protection from the elements.
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Good gawd is that a TV with a built-in VHS? Thereβs a Barney The Dinosaur tape stuck in that slot. Shrek for my oldest.. Over and over and over again.
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Behlen makes spray lacquer with dye in it, there's quite a palet of colors to choose from. Visit your local woodworker's supply store for a good selection of Behlen products. This is the method Remington used to deal with the issue. Just use the Behlen product on & be done with it! The intent was not to cover up grain for a uniform appearance. But to try and stain the thing . Think I said that a few times Think I memtioned i hate working with maple and birch. Think I said it will do for 3 or 4 days of dove hunting Think I said i will be hunting down a black walnut stock after deer season And yes I know factories use a spray on coating to make all tones the same appearing for their mismatched cheap wood to the customer. Just like this one was from the factory. Winchester red brown complete covered. Think I said something similar addressing many of these post back on this thread. Next ...... LOL!!! feel like f u c king fozzy bear getting rode by the 2 old guys on the muppet show. Just like when a bunch where hounding me on my spray paint stock project. 3 fails. Posted em up. Not embarrased or ashamed or fearful of comments. Then came up with the toothbrush whack a mole speckled on #4. All pics or it never happened......... ππππππ
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Good gawd is that a TV with a built-in VHS? Thereβs a Barney The Dinosaur tape stuck in that slot. Shrek for my oldest.. Over and over and over again. Dumb and dumber for my youngest. Ren and Stimpy for oldest Middle daughter was more of a reader than her 2 sisters Kim possible for her. ππππππ
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I have a Husqvarna that came with a bright, shiny finish with a color I described as 'monkey schmidt yellow'. Lordy, I tried to live with that finish but just gagged every time I took it hunting. When I couldn't stand it any longer, I tried to strip the lacquer off but it resisted everything I put on it. So, I gave it to a friend to refinish. He got the factory finish off (which was a funny story by itself), and then put the reddish M1 Garand oil on it. It won't compare to walnut in any way, but at least it doesn't make me want to heave when I look at it now....
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Some good advice is being given by guys. And I aporeciate it. Aint no getting this stain out of this birch. They parts have been sanded for all sharp angle rounded and smoothed over. Its has been fitted for the linbsaver pad. And all has been mocked up in the white. Some of you have seen the prior threads covering that work. But for some of the others....... How many of ya "experts" ever deal with a stock like this and make post on here trail and error wise till you found what would work? Let alone posted any pics about work ya done... Before..... After 3 fails..... Some of you know it alls just sniping at me on here for a feel good factor. Please tell me how I got this Red glue and birch laminate stock to finally take and hold a f u c king stain and a finish..... Oh name that f u c k ing wpn also. None that veiwed the threads several yrs ago can participate in that Questionππππππππ Pics or it never happened...........
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I have a Husqvarna that came with a bright, shiny finish with a color I described as 'monkey schmidt yellow'. Lordy, I tried to live with that finish but just gagged every time I took it hunting. When I couldn't stand it any longer, I tried to strip the lacquer off but it resisted everything I put on it. So, I gave it to a friend to refinish. He got the factory finish off (which was a funny story by itself), and then put the reddish M1 Garand oil on it. It won't compare to walnut in any way, but at least it doesn't make me want to heave when I look at it now.... That looks good man. Did he use glass to shave off the finish or something else mechanical How did he do the checkering?
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Some good advice is being given by guys. And I aporeciate it. Aint no getting this stain out of this birch. They parts have been sanded for all sharp angle rounded and smoothed over. Its has been fitted for the linbsaver pad. And all has been mocked up in the white. Some of you have seen the prior threads covering that work. But for some of the others....... How many of ya "experts" ever deal with a stock like this and make post on here trail and error wise till you found what would work? Let alone posted any pics about work ya done... Before..... After 3 fails..... Some of you know it alls just sniping at me on here for a feel good factor. Please tell me how I got this Red glue and birch laminate stock to finally take and hold a f u c king stain and a finish..... Oh name that f u c k ing wpn also. None that veiwed the threads several yrs ago can participate in that Questionππππππππ Pics or it never happened........... Hakim ?
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Good gawd is that a TV with a built-in VHS? Thereβs a Barney The Dinosaur tape stuck in that slot. Shrek for my oldest.. Over and over and over again. Dumb and dumber for my youngest. Ren and Stimpy for oldest Middle daughter was more of a reader than her 2 sisters Kim possible for her. ππππππ My oldest was all about Thomas the Train when he was 4-5 yrs old. It was brutal! Then he got into Sponge Bob. Good times watching Sponge Bob with my son.
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Good gawd is that a TV with a built-in VHS? Thereβs a Barney The Dinosaur tape stuck in that slot. Shrek for my oldest.. Over and over and over again. Dumb and dumber for my youngest. Ren and Stimpy for oldest Middle daughter was more of a reader than her 2 sisters Kim possible for her. ππππππ My oldest was all about Thomas the Train when he was 4-5 yrs old. It was brutal! Then he got into Sponge Bob. Good times watching Sponge Bob with my son. Hahaha!!! Ren and Stimpy with my oldest daughter was good times. Dumb and dumber with youngest .. Constantly.. OMG....
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Some good advice is being given by guys. And I aporeciate it. Aint no getting this stain out of this birch. They parts have been sanded for all sharp angle rounded and smoothed over. Its has been fitted for the linbsaver pad. And all has been mocked up in the white. Some of you have seen the prior threads covering that work. But for some of the others....... How many of ya "experts" ever deal with a stock like this and make post on here trail and error wise till you found what would work? Let alone posted any pics about work ya done... Before..... After 3 fails..... Some of you know it alls just sniping at me on here for a feel good factor. Please tell me how I got this Red glue and birch laminate stock to finally take and hold a f u c king stain and a finish..... Oh name that f u c k ing wpn also. None that veiwed the threads several yrs ago can participate in that Questionππππππππ Pics or it never happened........... Hakim ? Nope.
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It came here from Italy though.
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I have some sample boards πππππ IDGAF.. πππππ You got a 2"x 2" one with consistent grain and wood density. Something perfect for a consistent shade start to finish... Cause I want one that is totally unlike all the variances in a stock. So I can look at it and punch myself repeatedly in the nuts. π₯΄π₯΄π₯΄ππππ π€£ππ½π€£ π¦«
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Good gawd is that a TV with a built-in VHS? Thereβs a Barney The Dinosaur tape stuck in that slot. Shrek for my oldest.. Over and over and over again. Dumb and dumber for my youngest. Ren and Stimpy for oldest Middle daughter was more of a reader than her 2 sisters Kim possible for her. ππππππ My oldest was all about Thomas the Train when he was 4-5 yrs old. It was brutal! Then he got into Sponge Bob. Good times watching Sponge Bob with my son. Hahaha!!! Ren and Stimpy with my oldest daughter was good times. Dumb and dumber with youngest .. Constantly.. OMG.... Dumb and Dumber was a great one. Lots of lol scenes but my favorite was the news crew interviewing the blind kid sold the parakeet with its head taped back onπ
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Good gawd is that a TV with a built-in VHS? Thereβs a Barney The Dinosaur tape stuck in that slot. Shrek for my oldest.. Over and over and over again. Dumb and dumber for my youngest. Ren and Stimpy for oldest Middle daughter was more of a reader than her 2 sisters Kim possible for her. ππππππ My oldest was all about Thomas the Train when he was 4-5 yrs old. It was brutal! Then he got into Sponge Bob. Good times watching Sponge Bob with my son. Hahaha!!! Ren and Stimpy with my oldest daughter was good times. Dumb and dumber with youngest .. Constantly.. OMG.... Dumb and Dumber was a great one. Lots of lol scenes but my favorite was the news crew interviewing the blind kid sold the parakeet with its head taped back onπ Pretty bird..... ππππ
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I have some sample boards πππππ IDGAF.. πππππ You got a 2"x 2" one with consistent grain and wood density. Something perfect for a consistent shade start to finish... Cause I want one that is totally unlike all the variances in a stock. So I can look at it and punch myself repeatedly in the nuts. π₯΄π₯΄π₯΄ππππ π€£ππ½π€£ 𦫠Beav with da assist!!! πππππππ
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The only time this happened to me I had to scrape the finish and a layer of wood off to get down to bare wood. Easiest way to get it off without changing all the lines completely was to use a cabinet scraper and scrape a very thin layer off at a time until the blotchiness was gone. Took a while and had to reshape parts of the stock to accomodate the changes but it came out okay in the end. You can them put a layer or two of shellac on the wood to seal, then cover with a toned lacquer or polyurethane for the color you want... For next time, of course... after you've lived with this one for dove season and learn to hate it every time you take it out.....
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