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Simple.

All Abbott needs to do is declare Texas an immigration law enforcement sanctuary. The opposite of what Dems did to Trump when crafting their fashionable "immigration sanctuaries". Tell Merrick that any people or agency coming to Texas to attempt to prevent enforcement of immigration laws, will be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of Texas Law.

If the Federal government no longer follows the Rule of Law for all people, their input becomes criminal and should be regarded as Null and Void, just like every unConstitutional process ought to be.

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Keep poking the bear.


And what?

The sheep will be getting on the boxcars saying "If we only had a leader".


Imagine a corporate oligarchy so effective, so advanced and fine tuned that its citizens still call it a democracy.



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I've shed the terms Conservatard, Repuke and the like. I don't I identify with those terms any more.

What I always have been since my awakening when I was shocked Reagan signed the first amnesty bill without the promised immigration laws being change first. And really didn't understand at the time after feeling betrayed.

When asked my political affiliation now I pronounce Patriot.


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We deal with this SCHITT, almost every day. Rio7



The similarities of your second and third picture are very familiar. Rode fence 3 weeks ago looking for gaps from the rain and fixed more spots due to "someone" climbing the high fences. Since March we could have filled a grande roll off with the trash picked up. The gas pipeline is nothing but a main road to San Antonio. Don't like it but part of the way things are down here. And I split my time between DFW and Zapata so not in STX full time.

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Many think that it issue of slavery was paramount in the Secession of Texas. One of the other prime factors was Washington’s ignoring the issue with the warring Native Americans, but also the disregard for the border from Mexican bandits as well as Washington’s inability to protect American citizens from both!


Slavery wasn’t the paramount issue? Texas was the only state to fight two wars to preserve slavery, and the only state to guarantee slavery in its constitution.

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Originally Posted by RIO7


These are not Mexicans, they come from China, Cuba, Brazil, the Dimmorats are planning on their vote, and you can be damn sure they will get it. Rio7


Wonder how many Muslims are getting in too. 😡


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get that Texas wall up ! then put shooters on the wall and give them the green light . Biden/Harris team of liberals are ruining America . i wish Texas would succeed from the Republic of America maybe people will then understand its time to rid ourselves of these dang liberals !



If Texas closes the border, there will be more deadly threats and actions from the north side of the border than from the south.

There's no way the govt would let Texas get by with that. They would kill as many as it took to keep the flow of illegals coming in, and to teach other states a "lesson".

Better not be looking just to Mexico. Because the real threat is in D.C.


Yep. Ole Hiden Biden better bring his “Nukes and F-15’s”

He’ll damn sure need em.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
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These are not Mexicans, they come from China, Cuba, Brazil, the Dimmorats are planning on their vote, and you can be damn sure they will get it. Rio7


Wonder how many Muslims are getting in too. 😡



Several hundred Haitians in the Del Rio sector last week.

You know Muslims are coming in too...

And when they commit terrorist acts, the Biden Administration will blame guns and conservatives. mad


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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Originally Posted by RIO7


These are not Mexicans, they come from China, Cuba, Brazil, the Dimmorats are planning on their vote, and you can be damn sure they will get it. Rio7


Wonder how many Muslims are getting in too. 😡



Several hundred Haitians in the Del Rio sector last week.

You know Muslims are coming in too...

And when they commit terrorist acts, the Biden Administration will blame guns and conservatives. mad


Well of course. Biden’s supporting his Boss, The Halfican’s policy of supporting and financing Terrorists.

They need anther Mall or Synagogue Shooting by Muzzy’s to push for Gun Control. And Confiscation. 😡


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Originally Posted by El_CuCuy
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Many think that it issue of slavery was paramount in the Secession of Texas. One of the other prime factors was Washington’s ignoring the issue with the warring Native Americans, but also the disregard for the border from Mexican bandits as well as Washington’s inability to protect American citizens from both!


Slavery wasn’t the paramount issue? Texas was the only state to fight two wars to preserve slavery, and the only state to guarantee slavery in its constitution.


I strongly suggest you go back and read both the Texas declaration of independence of 1836 as well as the Texas declaration of secession of 1861.

Btw, Texas wasn’t a state in 1836 unless you meant part of a state in Mexico. That was in essence the paramount cause for revolt in 1836. They wished to be a autonomous Mexican State. And they threw Austin in prison. Read up!




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Many think that it issue of slavery was paramount in the Secession of Texas. One of the other prime factors was Washington’s ignoring the issue with the warring Native Americans, but also the disregard for the border from Mexican bandits as well as Washington’s inability to protect American citizens from both!


Slavery wasn’t the paramount issue? Texas was the only state to fight two wars to preserve slavery, and the only state to guarantee slavery in its constitution.


I strongly suggest you go back and read both the Texas declaration of independence of 1836 as well as the Texas declaration of secession of 1861.

Btw, Texas wasn’t a state in 1836 unless you meant part of a state in Mexico. That was in essence the paramount cause for revolt in 1836. They wished to be a autonomous Mexican State. And they threw Austin in prison. Read up!





Hmmm....finally someone who knows a little more Texas History than the DoE wants known. Gotta make sure the Anglos are cast in the evil light - just like the Mexican Government did in 1836, after Texas won independence.

Never mind all the Tejanos that started the ball rolling, and were more than half of the population at the time...it was them slavery-loving Anglos...

I get tired of hearing supposedly educated people repeating that last line, and thinking they have an intelligent grasp on Texas History.

And YES, Stephen F. Austin WAS jailed!

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Originally Posted by TXLoader
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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Many think that it issue of slavery was paramount in the Secession of Texas. One of the other prime factors was Washington’s ignoring the issue with the warring Native Americans, but also the disregard for the border from Mexican bandits as well as Washington’s inability to protect American citizens from both!


Slavery wasn’t the paramount issue? Texas was the only state to fight two wars to preserve slavery, and the only state to guarantee slavery in its constitution.


I strongly suggest you go back and read both the Texas declaration of independence of 1836 as well as the Texas declaration of secession of 1861.

Btw, Texas wasn’t a state in 1836 unless you meant part of a state in Mexico. That was in essence the paramount cause for revolt in 1836. They wished to be a autonomous Mexican State. And they threw Austin in prison. Read up!





Hmmm....finally someone who knows a little more Texas History than the DoE wants known. Gotta make sure the Anglos are cast in the evil light - just like the Mexican Government did in 1836, after Texas won independence.

Never mind all the Tejanos that started the ball rolling, and were more than half of the population at the time...it was them slavery-loving Anglos...

I get tired of hearing supposedly educated people repeating that last line, and thinking they have an intelligent grasp on Texas History.

And YES, Stephen F. Austin WAS jailed!


Dumbases like that are educated far beyond their intelligence.


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Not only that! Remember the Fredonian rebellion? The militia from Villa de Austin (San Felipe) was Called out. (1827) and marched with the Mexican forces to put down the revolt!

Also

In 1832 Santa Anna was treated like a savior by the anglo inhabitants of Villa de Austin!!!! When he became a
Centralist was when things went down hill. Although he was elected to the office of president he did not serve. He left that up to the VP. Valentín Gómez Farías! Look him up. He was a pretty good fellow.

Santa Anna is worth a deep study if you have time!

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Yes slavery was quite the issue in Texas. But it was not the only issue. The old Spanish/Mexican colonial caste system hung on tight with the ruling class. Blacks were looked down on. It’s like the reasons they were anti-slavery is for all the wrong reasons. They were anti-black. ( The same can be said for many American abolitionist). There were big enclaves of Hispanic blacks in like Yucatan. But they were Not treated well.

Personally I can see no difference in chattal slavery and peonage. Which was all the rage in Mexico.

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Kaywoodie,

Did I say something untrue, or even untoward? Texas fought a war against Mexico, and another against the United States to preserve slavery. Were other reasons given to dress up a document or two? Sure, but to say that Texian slave owners seceded over marauding Comanche, or Mexican bandits, respectfully, I can’t buy any part of that.

From the 1836 Constitution of the Republic of Texas:

SEC. 9. All persons of color who were slaves for life previous to their emigration to Texas, and who are now held in bondage, shall remain in the like state of servitude, provide the said slave shall be the bona fide property of the person so holding said slave as aforesaid. Congress shall pass no laws to prohibit emigrants from the United States of America from bringing their slaves into the Republic with them, and holding them by the same tenure by which such slaves were held in the United States; nor shall Congress have power to emancipate slaves; nor shall any slave-holder be allowed to emancipate his or her slave or slaves, without the consent of Congress, unless he or she shall send his or her slave or slaves without the limits of the Republic. No free person of African descent, either in whole or in part, shall be permitted to reside permanently in the Republic, without the consent of Congress, and the importation or admission of Africans or negroes into this Republic, excepting from the United States of America, is forever prohibited, and declared to be piracy.

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Originally Posted by El_CuCuy
Kaywoodie,

Did I say something untrue, or even untoward? Texas fought a war against Mexico, and another against the United States to preserve slavery. We’re other reasons given to dress up a document or two? Sure, but to say that Texian slave owners seceded over marauding Comanche, or Mexican bandits, respectfully, I can’t buy any part of that.

From the 1836 Constitution of the Republic of Texas:

SEC. 9. All persons of color who were slaves for life previous to their emigration to Texas, and who are now held in bondage, shall remain in the like state of servitude, provide the said slave shall be the bona fide property of the person so holding said slave as aforesaid. Congress shall pass no laws to prohibit emigrants from the United States of America from bringing their slaves into the Republic with them, and holding them by the same tenure by which such slaves were held in the United States; nor shall Congress have power to emancipate slaves; nor shall any slave-holder be allowed to emancipate his or her slave or slaves, without the consent of Congress, unless he or she shall send his or her slave or slaves without the limits of the Republic. No free person of African descent, either in whole or in part, shall be permitted to reside permanently in the Republic, without the consent of Congress, and the importation or admission of Africans or negroes into this Republic, excepting from the United States of America, is forever prohibited, and declared to be piracy.


Oh, I expect you must be reading the new book “Forget the Alamo”, latest tome from the Cancel Culture. Friend of mine is reading it, he says the first five chapters are about slavery.

IIRC the provisions re: Slavery were about like any Southern State at the time, including freed slaves having to leave the State. Worth noting those freed slaves had better not have been planning to move to Illinois, Mr Lincoln’s home state, because Black folks weren’t allowed to move there either.

Anyhoo... here’s the Texas Declaration of Independence as of March 2nd 1836... nary a word about slavery.....

https://www.tsl.texas.gov/treasures/republic/odeclar-01.html


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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Kaywoodie,

Did I say something untrue, or even untoward? Texas fought a war against Mexico, and another against the United States to preserve slavery. We’re other reasons given to dress up a document or two? Sure, but to say that Texian slave owners seceded over marauding Comanche, or Mexican bandits, respectfully, I can’t buy any part of that.

From the 1836 Constitution of the Republic of Texas:

SEC. 9. All persons of color who were slaves for life previous to their emigration to Texas, and who are now held in bondage, shall remain in the like state of servitude, provide the said slave shall be the bona fide property of the person so holding said slave as aforesaid. Congress shall pass no laws to prohibit emigrants from the United States of America from bringing their slaves into the Republic with them, and holding them by the same tenure by which such slaves were held in the United States; nor shall Congress have power to emancipate slaves; nor shall any slave-holder be allowed to emancipate his or her slave or slaves, without the consent of Congress, unless he or she shall send his or her slave or slaves without the limits of the Republic. No free person of African descent, either in whole or in part, shall be permitted to reside permanently in the Republic, without the consent of Congress, and the importation or admission of Africans or negroes into this Republic, excepting from the United States of America, is forever prohibited, and declared to be piracy.


Oh, I expect you must be reading the new book “Forget the Alamo”, latest tome from the Cancel Culture. Friend of mine is reading it, he says the first five chapters are about slavery.

IIRC the provisions re: Slavery were about like any Southern State at the time, including freed slaves having to leave the State. Worth noting those freed slaves had better not have been planning to move to Illinois, Mr Lincoln’s home state, because freed slaves weren’t allowed to move there either.

Anyhoo... here’s the Texas Declaration of Independence as of March 2nd 1836... nary a word about slavery.....

https://www.tsl.texas.gov/treasures/republic/odeclar-01.html


Yep. Probably gets all his “Woke” Revisionist History BS from the Commie DemoRat’s.


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Originally Posted by El_CuCuy
Kaywoodie,

Did I say something untrue, or even untoward? Texas fought a war against Mexico, and another against the United States to preserve slavery. We’re other reasons given to dress up a document or two? Sure, but to say that Texian slave owners seceded over marauding Comanche, or Mexican bandits, respectfully, I can’t buy any part of that.

From the 1836 Constitution of the Republic of Texas:

SEC. 9. All persons of color who were slaves for life previous to their emigration to Texas, and who are now held in bondage, shall remain in the like state of servitude, provide the said slave shall be the bona fide property of the person so holding said slave as aforesaid. Congress shall pass no laws to prohibit emigrants from the United States of America from bringing their slaves into the Republic with them, and holding them by the same tenure by which such slaves were held in the United States; nor shall Congress have power to emancipate slaves; nor shall any slave-holder be allowed to emancipate his or her slave or slaves, without the consent of Congress, unless he or she shall send his or her slave or slaves without the limits of the Republic. No free person of African descent, either in whole or in part, shall be permitted to reside permanently in the Republic, without the consent of Congress, and the importation or admission of Africans or negroes into this Republic, excepting from the United States of America, is forever prohibited, and declared to be piracy.


A smart fella best not challenge K-Wood, Birdy or a few others here on Texas history.

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Kaywoodie,

Did I say something untrue, or even untoward? Texas fought a war against Mexico, and another against the United States to preserve slavery. We’re other reasons given to dress up a document or two? Sure, but to say that Texian slave owners seceded over marauding Comanche, or Mexican bandits, respectfully, I can’t buy any part of that.

From the 1836 Constitution of the Republic of Texas:

SEC. 9. All persons of color who were slaves for life previous to their emigration to Texas, and who are now held in bondage, shall remain in the like state of servitude, provide the said slave shall be the bona fide property of the person so holding said slave as aforesaid. Congress shall pass no laws to prohibit emigrants from the United States of America from bringing their slaves into the Republic with them, and holding them by the same tenure by which such slaves were held in the United States; nor shall Congress have power to emancipate slaves; nor shall any slave-holder be allowed to emancipate his or her slave or slaves, without the consent of Congress, unless he or she shall send his or her slave or slaves without the limits of the Republic. No free person of African descent, either in whole or in part, shall be permitted to reside permanently in the Republic, without the consent of Congress, and the importation or admission of Africans or negroes into this Republic, excepting from the United States of America, is forever prohibited, and declared to be piracy.


A smart fella best not challenge K-Wood, Birdy or a few others here on Texas history.

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She's not smart. Just parroting the narrative that everything revolved around slavery.

It's getting tired, that subject is. sick


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People forget the horrific brutality Santa Anna represented.

As a young Lieutenant he had participated on the Spanish side in the First Texas Revolution wherein 1,000 Americans and 500 Tejanos united to fight for Texas independence from Spain. In the aftermath of the Battle of Medina (August 18th, 1813) several hundred, possibly as many as 900 American and Tejano prisoners were executed on the battlefield, some being tortured with fire first to reveal the names of co-conspirators.

Arriving in San Antonio after the battle Arredondo, the Spanish General, imprisoned almost all the 2,000 Tejano inhabitants, handing the women and girls over to his 1,800 man army. Ten prisoners were executed every day for a month, 300 total, their heads put on pikes around the town plaza.

IIRC Santa Anna, lauded for his enthusiasm by Arredondo, was with the detachment sent up the Camino Real to Nacodoches with orders to execute every man and youth they came across that couldn’t prove they had always been loyal to Spain, executing another 100 Tejano men and youths.

Nothing remotely comparable to this campaign occurred anywhere else in our history.

Twenty two years later, 1835, the new Presidente Santa Ana abolished the admirable Mexican Constitution of 1824, sparking a civil war. 1835 El Presidente was preoccupied slaughtering his fellow Mexicans in order to stay in power, including thousands of civilians when he turned his army loose of the city of Zazatecas.

By the time Santa Ana arrives in Texas in February of 1836, none of all this is news to the Texians. No surprise this butcher summarily executed more than 300 men of the Texian Army at Goliad after they had surrendered under promise of good treatment.

Yep, it was about slavery alright crazy


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