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A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST #10637266 10/30/15
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I've just acquired a new to me rifle and I'm having some trouble finding information on it. It's a neat little 20 gauge over .22 mag with double triggers. You pull the rear trigger to cock the rifle and the front trigger to fire it. My perceived problem is the adjustable front trigger. It's so light, even after backing the screw all the way out, that just a light touch releases the hammer. When the screw is tightened, and I use that term lightly, the hammer will actually just barely catch as the rear trigger is pulled rearward and then release as the I let off said rear trigger. I know this is a high end combination gun, but I have no experience with these, and I'm wondering if this is normal. The gun looks like it was barely used if at all. Has anyone had any hands on time with a Heym adjustable trigger? Thanks in advance for your replies.

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Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #10637358 10/30/15
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It sounds like a double set trigger. Such a trigger operates in two modes. The front lever is the actual trigger, the rear lever is used to "set" the trigger. Neither actually cocks the gun.

The way it works is this. The first mode is using the trigger set. You do this by pulling the rear lever until it clicks, or "cocks" the trigger mechanism. When you do this the front lever, the actual trigger, will typically be very light, going off more or less at a touch. This mode is intended for a deliberate shot when you have time, though when you get used to it you may find yourself using it more often (I've often realised, even after taking a quick running shot, that I set the trigger out of force of habit).

The other mode however, is unset. This is where you just pull the front lever, without setting the mechanism with the rear. Typically the trigger pull in this mode will be a lot heavier, and it is intended for those quick shots where you don't have time to set the trigger.

Have you tried using the trigger unset, ie without "cocking" the rear trigger?

Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #10637404 10/30/15
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I just did a quick Google, and it appears that the Heym 22 was indeed offered with double set trigger.

Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #10637468 10/30/15
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It is a double trigger, but the rear one does in fact cock the hammer. I saw it called a kick spanner mechanism. I have the original factory certificate for the gun from April 1968 with the matching serial number. On the back of the certificate the instructions call it a unique double safety system, requiring the gun to be manually cocked instead of cocking on closing. This model is different than most of the other models I've seen listed. I can say for sure that it is not a typical set trigger setup.

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Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #10637656 10/30/15
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Usually "kickspanner" means a tang slide, like a tang safety, which is pushed forward to cock the action. I have a gun with such a mechanism myself, and they are not uncommon. Heym 22s were made with such a mechanism too:

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I don't know of any in which the rear "trigger" performs that function. Not saying it doesn't exist, just running out of ideas.

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The front trigger will not fire without first "cocking" the rear trigger. There doesn't seem to be much info out there on the model 22. This was obtained from a family friends estate, so what you see is the only info I have. I'm hoping someone else here has some hands on experience with one of these.

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Sorry for the poor lighting and pics, but here she is...

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Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #10654822 11/03/15
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The lockwork of those guns is like a Swiss watch. You should remove the butt stock and liberally spray th lock work and inside the rear of the action with Breakfree or similar product and work the triggers and safety while doing so. Then set it with barrels up and let th action drip out overnight before putting the stock back on

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Try posting this over on the German gun collectors association forum.
Perhaps someone over there can assist.

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Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #10663636 11/05/15
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You might also find the inertia block spring has been relaxed to make the firing trigger even lighter. It's usually the screw(s) that hold the large spring down. You can try to tighten it up and see if that makes the front trigger more adjustable.



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I know little about this gun and am liking the learning experience.

BTW, that Scopechief was a very good scope back in the early 1980s. The optics tests showed them to be superior to the VariXII Loopies in many respects. I bought two of the same scopes back then, and I put one on my grandson's 243 recently for his first deer hunt. He nailed a 3X3 mulie at 420 yards. I use the other on a vintage Mdl 70 of mine.

I think brayhaven might be on the right track.


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Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #10685920 11/09/15
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I was hoping I wouldn't end up disassembling it. I'm unsure of the value on this, although I suspect it's a high end gun, it was part of a gift from a family friends late husbands estate. I'm teetering on the edge of selling it since there are others that I received that I will actually use, and I'm currently facing a layoff. I hate keeping guns I won't use, but it's such a beautiful firearm. Thanks everyone for all of your input thus far. Anyone got any idea on the value?

Re: A little help...Heym-Bushnell Mod. 22 ST [Re: ffbigdawg] #16318813 08/06/21
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Heym Mod. 22 ST
Recently received a like new 16b over .22 magnum
Where can I get a brochure as was shown here?
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Jim


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