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Anyone have any good ar loads for the 6 arc? Going to put mine together this week.
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Good luck. You can be the Guinea pig
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Got these loads from joshf303 105s @ 2.235 CCI 450 28.9gr of CFE223 2620 FPS 87 VMaxes @ 2.185 CCI 450 29.6gr of CFE223 2715 FPS Once fired Hornady brass. Shoot this yesterday out of a new 20" Proof Research Stainless barrel. These are shots 41, 42, 43, 44, 45 out of that barrel. I was gonna sell this upper, now maybe not. It also did five shots (shots 36, 37, 38, 39, and 40) of the 105 load above into 0.778"
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Thanks. I have a piece of a jug of CFE 223. Couldn't get it to shoot worth crap in a 223 but it looks like the 6 arc may use it up.
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The go to is Leverevolution in the 6mm ARC, but I've had better luck with CFE223
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Poor poor(literally) BSA,always in a hurry to take her Fhuqking STUPIDITY,to some place it's never been before...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? 1000 words. Hint. 1000 more. Re-hint. 1000 more. Re-re-hint. Virgin Hornie brass(6.5 Grendel) FL sized in FL ARC die,to far left. Virgin Hornie brass (6.5 Grendel) FL sized on FL 243 PPC Alaskan Improved/243LBC/243/Predator or whatever label you wish to affix,on far right. O/F Lapua 6.5 Grendel Virgin,headspaced ala false shoulder,as it falls out of my FL 243 PPC Alaskan Improved/243LBC/243/Predator or whatever label you wish to affix chambers. Hint. I shoot 29.5grs of Lever' in all of my 20" spouts,at 2600fps+ with a 105 Hornie HPBT at 2.310" COAL,due ASC mags(expressly). 400's solely for me. Moly a given,along with Lapooey robustitude CRUSHING all things Hornie brass. Rifle Gas,all. Hint. If I recall correctly,I've (4) Krunchentickers so chambered,none slower than 8" nor faster than 7". It is a Wicked NASTY Fhuqking Chambering,of obviously modest recoil and mild manners as a whole,with tail wagging and eager to please. The PPC bloodline evident,in every mash of the trigger. ES/SD are all but ZERO and the .530 BC slips atmospherics nicely,while giving zero fhuqks about running up feedramps. Hint. Pardon reality. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
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Thanks. I have some Lever also. Will give both it and CFE 223 a shot. Brass is hard as hell to source right now but I managed to scratch up a couple hundred pieces of new Starline grendel brass a month or two ago, and a set of hornady 6 arc dies.
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As brass quality/durability goes,Lapooey is KING and by a goodly margin. Starline is 2nd best. Hornady and Norma are absolute fhuqking Dog Schit. Hint.
Lever' by light years. Hint..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I was having trouble getting Leverevolution and CFE, so I tried some BLC-2 since I had a bunch of it, and it worked out great with Hornady 105's
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I was having trouble getting Leverevolution and CFE, so I tried some BLC-2 since I had a bunch of it, and it worked out great with Hornady 105's Great shooting. What was your load and velocity?
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That was a Hornady 105 BTHP over 28 grains of BLC-2 and CCI 400's
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Slapped mine together today. The Aero M4e1 Enhanced upper and handguard seems nice. Gonna squish down some Grendel brass probably tomorrow.
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Slapped mine together today. The Aero M4e1 Enhanced upper and handguard seems nice. Gonna squish down some Grendel brass probably tomorrow. Those Aero parts are nice. I found out something interesting yesterday. I was looking at a Stag and found out it is all Aero precision. Upper, lower, and handguard. Along with other Aero parts. Keep us posted on how your 6 ARC shoots and the loads it likes..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Stag is or was owned by Continental Machine and Tool.
Curious as to how you know they were Aero parts?
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The 6 arc I built with factory 108 eld-m will hold the 10 ring at 600 hundred. But so far reloading for it’s been frustrating, one day it will shoot next day shoot no so great. Another thing it does is it shoot 2, 2 shot groups then the 5th round lands wherever. But the two shot groups are usually 1/4 to 1/2 inch apart. It’s also vertical string. I will post pictures of it. I pretty much shelved the operation hell I bought 1-6.5 224 barrel from bison armory, just to shoot the 88’s and it does what the 6 arc does with little fuss.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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79S, I have noticed that all of the loads I've gotten from other people require some tweaking, as a minimum. I generally pick a charge, then find the best OAL using Berger's method. In my experience, they're right about "one of these 4 COALs will outperform the other three by a considerable margin." For hunting rounds, I stop there and don't tweak any further.
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Oh man, and here I thought I was the problem. I am having similar issues as 79S with my ARC as we both have the same barrel. I haven't shot my hand-loads yet, but I'm getting similar results with factory. I may get two or three in a group and then the others go somewhere else. I loaded up some 95 gr. SST's yesterday with LeveRevolution, but it will be a while before I can test them out.
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Slapped mine together today. The Aero M4e1 Enhanced upper and handguard seems nice. Gonna squish down some Grendel brass probably tomorrow. Those Aero parts are nice. I found out something interesting yesterday. I was looking at a Stag and found out it is all Aero precision. Upper, lower, and handguard. Along with other Aero parts. Keep us posted on how your 6 ARC shoots and the loads it likes.. As I recall, both Aero and Stag have a home in Washington State. I also recall the owner of the Stag name and factory was making lowers with no serial numbers and was forced out by the BATF. This would explain the Aero parts. Put a new manager in the building and the owner sets at home with no daily operations duties but he still collects a check. Just my speculation. kwg
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stag arms is based out of cheyenne wyoming
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Stag was founded by the son of CMT in CT as the retail side but did get into trouble and now are based in WY.
I was wondering if BSA saw the splintered A forge mark and assumed it was Aero or if something really went off the tracks here. I just can’t see them going to someone else for parts unless the entire division was sold off. Not that it matters but I try to keep up when I can. BTW, the Splintered A forge mark is actually a stylized H with an A on top for Anchor Harvey forge.
CMT had a great reputation back in the day and built parts for several manufacturers. But once they opened Stag, deliveries started slowing down for other companies.
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