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A 150 gr Nosler partition at 3000fps out of a 270 solves many problems Perfect Deer Rifle And moose and bear and caribou and sheep rifle. Have put lots of each in the freezer with 130 gr Partitions and a stomach full of 4831. Ted
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Being a huge 270 fan, I take these threads with a grain of salt. Been using a 270 since before the 7-08 was released. I really like the 7-08 and consider it nothing more than a 270 short. Have a couple that I never hunted. I can easily match 7-08 ballistics with my 270's but cannot match 270 ballistic with the 7-08's. The 280 is a wannabe 270 IMO. Back in the 70's when times were different, a 270 was it. That is what my Dad used. That is what we had reloading components for. We did not have our own reloading setup, as my Dad was frugal. We had to walk over to the neighbors to load ammo. It was fiscally responsible in his eyes.. Over the last 25 years I have been able to own and play with a bunch of different cartridges and rifles. For some reason I keep coming back to the 270. So you 7mm guys can have your 7-08, and 280, and 7mag. You can keep trying to drag down the classic 270 but it speaks volumes when one is trying to drag something down. Last year's gay 270 work. 145gr ELD-X, 3076 fps. Snuck into 50 yards on him, but blew him and the doe out. Stopped at about 175 yards.
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...............LOL!.....Same handshake for the new 6.8 Western as well?.....LOL
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...............LOL!.....Same handshake for the new 6.8 Western as well?.....LOL I think it could be the handshake for 7mm mag guys. Trying to over compensate for something?
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In my very limited experience, the full power .270 regardless of bullet weight, is the killingest cartridge I have ever used. I experienced several non lethal shots killing the deer on the spot for no reason that I could determine, but, I'm no veternarian. In my limited world of steep timbered blacktail country and close range it is too much of a good thing. No fault of the .270...I was just using it in the wrong place at the wrong time. At a time in my life when hunting was more for meat than sport, I was blood shotting a lot of meat. I moved to milder velocities of the Swede, the 7x57, 8x57 loaded modestly...and the bucks went another 25 yards before they dropped, but you could eat right up to the bullet hole.
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Question for the older 270 shooters. I have my dads 270 Remington pump that I decided to use and for my daughter to use. I had a box of very hornady 150 trainers on hand. It was shooting those really well. Shot a few 2-3 inch 3 shot groups at 300. Ok so I ran out of those and bought some more of those and some speers. Now it’s shooting 2 inches at 100. Any help or knowledge might help. Was wondering if maybe the old bullets were slightly bigger around and stabilized better. Thanks edk
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...............LOL!.....Same handshake for the new 6.8 Western as well?.....LOL I think it could be the handshake for 7mm mag guys. Trying to over compensate for something? ......LOL.....Well I guess that includes my 28 Nosler then......
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I can easily match 7-08 ballistics with my 270's but cannot match 270 ballistic with the 7-08's. What "ballistics" are you talking about?
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270 130 is the Iconic Western deer load,
Now that 10” twist is passé, 150s aren’t the top end of this caliber capabilities That is more for the 6.8s though.
280 / 7 mm Express in a bolt action at 270 Win pressures, Not the same comparison.
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Normal hunting ranges. This is the hunting rifle forum, not the long range shooting forum.
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Normal hunting ranges. This is the hunting rifle forum, not the long range shooting forum. I'm not asking about distance, but what aspects of external ballistics you're talking about; muzzle velocity, drop, wind drift, impact velocity, impact energy, muzzle energy, etc.?
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A 150 gr Nosler partition at 3000fps out of a 270 solves many problems Amen! Much more manly and not so gay then...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The only load I’ve used on game in my 270 was with 130 grain TTSX or TSX - I don’t remember. It worked fine. I’m not sure why anyone would say it’s better than a 280, unless they never shot a 280. The 280 is just slightly more powerful, that’s all. The 280 has a slightly larger case and a slightly larger diameter bullet. The 7mm bullets were available heavier than the 270 bullets, still are, I think. I bought my first 280 in the early 70’s. I never had an issue with its killing power. I chose the 280 over the 270 back then because the bullet selection was greater in 7mm at least in my opinion. The question comes down to what game can either be used successfully. Nothing that I’ve shot could be killed with one and not the other. I have three 270’s right now. I plan on giving one each to my two sons. They’ve complained about my favorite 30-06 load 180 grain and IMR4350. They seem to handle the 270 better.
A person can pick up a 270 cheaper than a 280!
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At 600 yards the 270 WCF, 7mm-08 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor with 130 and 140 grain bullets all hunt about the same and have remarkably similar ballistic characteristics down range. No one should lose any sleep over the physics these three chambers display nor their ability in the field. The 7mm-08 Rem and the 6.5 Creedmoor offer less recoil and with specific loadings for long range work will better the 270 WCF way out there past 750 yards, but again nothing to lose any sleep over. All three are top notch on the plains or in the mountains.
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The first bolt action centerfire rifle I ever bought was an older model Rem 700 in 270win. I had stopped hunting years before, and used the rifle for target shooting. Often in the summer during hot weather. The stock warped and put pressure on the barrel, walking shots across the paper as it heated up. I purchased a B&C stock for it and took it to a public range to sight in. It shot so well, the range officer thought I had a custom made rifle. I used that rifle to take my first elk with Rem factory cor-lok ammo. Only one I ever hit DRT. I gave that rifle to my Dad in exchange for my Grandfather's circa 1952' Win 70 so he'd have a deer rifle to replace my Grandfather's. He was so impressed with it, he asked me where I got it. I had purchased it used from a good freind of his several years prior. That freind had died of cancer. He's generally an exclusive bow hunter now, but still uses the rifle to put deer in the freezer on occasion. Its a good rifle, and a fine cartridge IMO..
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