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Pull up alaskagunshipping .com, they will handle getting your handgun to you in Tok.
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As to alaskagunshipping.com, if you do not use one of their preferred dealers to ship to them it would be a real good idea to call them so it is not treated as a transfer. Otherwise the deal won't go through for a non resident.
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If a non-resident hunter or hiker was hunting or backpacking in Alaska could she or he carry, or even purchase a pistol in Alaska? They cannot purchase a handgun in Alaska, but I am aware of no law that says they cannot concealed-carry anywhere a resident could. They are required to immediately advise any LE officer they have contact with that they are carrying. You know, it might be a good idea to know something before posting it... You are absolutely NOT REQUIRED to immediately advise anybody.
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So, a routine background check? I was thinking of how immpossible it would be to bring a pistol through Canada to get to Alaska. Even when the border reopens. Driving not flying. Carry a long gun through Canada (assuming they allow travel).Mail your handgun to the FFL in Tok, Alaska and pick it up there is one way to handle it. Wouldnt that ffl in Tok have to do a background check in order for them to receive that pistol? Does the OP have any friends up here they can mail stuff to? Nope...
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Just wondering about a purchase from a Alaskan FFL holder? Seems to me a purchase in Alaska would be less complicated rather than going through all above. Then, when trip is complete sell the pistol back. That may sound foolish, but just a thought. Iam currently considering a permit in.my home state, our laws go by County judge in residing county. Their call, regardless of past offences, or if any. Buying a gun in any state is a function of the laws of the State you are buying in. Most states require the purchase be legal in your home state also. That is not always the case... in AK, residents of most eastern states may not purchase firearms.
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It is illegal to mail a handgun unless it goes FFL to FFL. It is legal to mail long-guns to yourself "in care of" someone else, but note that the someone else can neither open the box NOR "take possession" of the weapon. ATF has said before that means YOU have to BE THERE to receive the package.
Though I do not use them, my understanding is that neither UPS nor FedEx will let anyone ship a handgun to someone who is not an FFL holder.
I would talk to the FFL holder "in Tok" you want to ship "in care of," because if I were him I would refuse to participate because I would have no way to be sure it was not an illegal transfer. Anyone can write any name and address they want in the return-address area on the package. Why do you insist on posting stuff that is not correct or reasonable? You are wrong on FedEx and UPS... both allow anyone to ship guns and handguns and they do not check for legality. They open their own can of worms when they start trying to interpret law. Simply because you fail to understand how ridiculous you are does not mean everyone else would not laugh at it... why would anyone willing to break the law worry about any other particular law?
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Sec. 11.61.220. Misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree. (a) A person commits the crime of misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree if the person (1) is 21 years of age or older and knowingly possesses a deadly weapon, other than an ordinary pocket knife or a defensive weapon, (A) that is concealed on the person, and, when contacted by a peace officer, the person fails to (i) immediately inform the peace officer of that possession; or
(ii) allow the peace officer to secure the deadly weapon, or fails to secure the weapon at the direction of the peace officer, during the duration of the contact;
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Sec. 11.61.220. Misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree. (a) A person commits the crime of misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree if the person (1) is 21 years of age or older and knowingly possesses a deadly weapon, other than an ordinary pocket knife or a defensive weapon, (A) that is concealed on the person, and, when contacted by a peace officer, the person fails to (i) immediately inform the peace officer of that possession; or
(ii) allow the peace officer to secure the deadly weapon, or fails to secure the weapon at the direction of the peace officer, during the duration of the contact;
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Sec. 11.61.220. Misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree. (a) A person commits the crime of misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree if the person (1) is 21 years of age or older and knowingly possesses a deadly weapon, other than an ordinary pocket knife or a defensive weapon, (A) that is concealed on the person, and, when contacted by a peace officer, the person fails to (i) immediately inform the peace officer of that possession; or
(ii) allow the peace officer to secure the deadly weapon, or fails to secure the weapon at the direction of the peace officer, during the duration of the contact; I don’t understand your intent with the quote and red text… a defensive weapon per AK is something like a taser or baton. Firearms definitely count. Also, through case law, a firearm is considered concealed if it is within ready access- like under the seat of the car, etc.
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Sec. 11.61.220. Misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree. (a) A person commits the crime of misconduct involving weapons in the fifth degree if the person (1) is 21 years of age or older and knowingly possesses a deadly weapon, other than an ordinary pocket knife or a defensive weapon, (A) that is concealed on the person, and, when contacted by a peace officer, the person fails to (i) immediately inform the peace officer of that possession; or
(ii) allow the peace officer to secure the deadly weapon, or fails to secure the weapon at the direction of the peace officer, during the duration of the contact; I don’t understand your intent with the quote and red text… a defensive weapon per AK is something like a taser or baton. Firearms definitely count. Also, through case law, a firearm is considered concealed if it is within ready access- like under the seat of the car, etc. Not the way it has been explained to me as a juror in an AK court...
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(20) "defensive weapon" means an electric stun gun, or a device to dispense mace or a similar chemical agent, that is not designed to cause death or serious physical injury;
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If a non-resident hunter or hiker was hunting or backpacking in Alaska could she or he carry, or even purchase a pistol in Alaska? They cannot purchase a handgun in Alaska, but I am aware of no law that says they cannot concealed-carry anywhere a resident could. They are required to immediately advise any LE officer they have contact with that they are carrying. You know, it might be a good idea to know something before posting it... You are absolutely NOT REQUIRED to immediately advise anybody. Why is it that the fools always have the biggest mouths? The statute could hardly be any more clear.
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(20) "defensive weapon" means an electric stun gun, or a device to dispense mace or a similar chemical agent, that is not designed to cause death or serious physical injury; Yes, the statute makes an exception for ordinary pocket knives and defensive weapons. So what? Why are we discussing the exception when the question is about concealed handguns? Simply because some dimwit highlighted it?
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(20) "defensive weapon" means an electric stun gun, or a device to dispense mace or a similar chemical agent, that is not designed to cause death or serious physical injury; Yes, the statute makes an exception for ordinary pocket knives and defensive weapons. So what? Why are we discussing the exception when the question is about concealed handguns? Simply because some dimwit highlighted it? You really want to go there?
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You are absolutely NOT REQUIRED to immediately advise anybody. The only thing we need to hear from you is an apology for this absolutely terrible advice that, if followed, would get people immediately hauled to jail.
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You are absolutely NOT REQUIRED to immediately advise anybody. The only thing we need to hear from you is an apology for this absolutely terrible advice that, if followed, would get people immediately hauled to jail. Would far rather take advice from the judge. Little thing about self-incrimination... the fact they cannot change.
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Pull up alaskagunshipping .com, they will handle getting your handgun to you in Tok. Pissing contests aside, this is the answer the OP is looking for. And no, an AK FFL cannot sell you a handgun unless he ships it to a FFL in your home state for pickup. That would defeat your purpose. No doubt many thousands of others have had the same issue you do. No need to reinvent the wheel. Have fun and don’t get kilt by a bear or molested by some bad guy. I’ll soon be flying up with my 10mm myself, and hope to avoid the same grisly fate.
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(20) "defensive weapon" means an electric stun gun, or a device to dispense mace or a similar chemical agent, that is not designed to cause death or serious physical injury; Correct
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You are absolutely NOT REQUIRED to immediately advise anybody. The only thing we need to hear from you is an apology for this absolutely terrible advice that, if followed, would get people immediately hauled to jail. You are completely wrong, but I'm sure you are proud of owning the stupid badge.
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