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Well, good luck. We can chat about this a couple of years from now. Odd how somebody will research the crap out of the next vehicle there going to buy, yet will allow the Government to jab you with something that you have no idea what’s in it.
Almost as odd as some halfwit attempting to impose his will upon complete strangers.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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I wonder who is this chief denier the OP is referring too?
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Apparently there is something I’m missing about this vaccine . Vaccinated people can still contract Covid . Vaccinated people can still transmit Covid . Vaccinated people can still die from Covid . Why would someone who has chosen to take the vaccine care if the next person is vaccinated or not ? I mean no disrespect to anyone but I really would like for someone who really knows what they are talking about to explain the logic of trying to force this so called “vaccine” on anyone who doesn’t want it
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It will be interesting how this conversation and the statistics unfolds in 2-3 years. The alternative Medicine users, anti Vaccers vs the I followed the science and got the vaccine.
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It will be interesting how this conversation and the statistics unfolds in 2-3 years. The alternative Medicine users, anti Vaccers vs the I followed the science and got the vaccine. That lack of reliable evidence is why I am currently holding off...I basically do not trust the money grubbing bastards.
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I was gong to get a vax, until they told me I HAD to. Sort of like not wanting an AR until they banned them.
Sort of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you think the vax works, get it. Otherwise, don't. Around here 90% of Covid hospital admissions are people who didn't get vaxed.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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getting, or not getting the 'rona seems to be a crap shoot. I am not convinced that going along with the official narrative is any better than just ignoring the narrative. Don't forget, the folks telling you that you have to get vaccinated are the same folks that have lied to us about the 'rona from day one. When it takes censorship, threats, force and going medieval on the law to force people to comply, it's probably not the best for us.
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12% of Americans have now had covid. 00.2% have died. Hopes for 'Herd Immunity' Fade as Virus Hurtles Toward Becoming Endemic .
Kids have no problem with covid. Old people have to survive it, somehow.
The "vaccine" created the new strains. Had we just ridden in out, it would have been over by last fall already. There were new strains evolving before the vaccine hit the market. This was written in December of 2020. There were 7 known strains at that point. https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/EVOLUTION/yxmpjqkdzvr/
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Wife recovered, has antibodies. Plenty of protection according to science. She then didn't want the jab. Kinda like "I beat the damned thing I deserve not to have to get the shot",
She was pissed because its obvious that the govt is pushing her to get something she doesn't want or need. The best proof there is that the shot is not about what's good for you or society. There's an agenda around it they're not talking about. When I talk to my family members who are doctors, my friend who are doctors and my personal doctor, and they recommend the vaccine, what's their agenda?
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Wife recovered, has antibodies. Plenty of protection according to science. She then didn't want the jab. Kinda like "I beat the damned thing I deserve not to have to get the shot",
She was pissed because its obvious that the govt is pushing her to get something she doesn't want or need. The best proof there is that the shot is not about what's good for you or society. There's an agenda around it they're not talking about. When I talk to my family members who are doctors, my friend who are doctors and my personal doctor, and they recommend the vaccine, what's their agenda? hows he supposed to know?....they are not talking about it.......bob
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Dad and his wife both became very sick about 3 weeks ago, Dad first. Two tests negative for Covid, then she became ill, after about 8 days they got her to a hospital, positive for covid, too late for the ivermectin, covid pnemonia, IV-antibiotics, oxygen, came close to being on a ventilator........... Shortly after SHE tested positive, Dad was prescribed Ivermectin and doxycyclo-something, he had minor symptoms, he tested positive for covid, and seems to be doing OK, here he is still 'HOT' with the covid, 2 weeks shy of 93 . SHE is still in the bed, in hospital, day 8, doing much better........... Neither vaxxed.....
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So how long before you scared old hens let a little girl Stick you with a needle? Nut sack
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Wife recovered, has antibodies. Plenty of protection according to science. She then didn't want the jab. Kinda like "I beat the damned thing I deserve not to have to get the shot",
She was pissed because its obvious that the govt is pushing her to get something she doesn't want or need. The best proof there is that the shot is not about what's good for you or society. There's an agenda around it they're not talking about. When I talk to my family members who are doctors, my friend who are doctors and my personal doctor, and they recommend the vaccine, what's their agenda? hows he supposed to know?....they are not talking about it.......bob Yeah, that's a bit to Q for me, but let's roll with it. If there was a truly nefarious agenda among the doctors, why have all of them taken the vaccine? Don't get me wrong, there is most assuredly a tangential political agenda. The left would love to wield more control over everyone, and they'd particularly love to beat the right into submission to notch a win. There are plenty of right leaning doctors who recommend the vaccine.
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It will be interesting how this conversation and the statistics unfolds in 2-3 years. The alternative Medicine users, anti Vaccers vs the I followed the science and got the vaccine. That lack of reliable evidence is why I am currently holding off...I basically do not trust the money grubbing bastards. Huge mistake early in to use the pandemic/vaccine as a political weapon against the Trump campaign. Early on most democrats(socialists) went on the record against the “Trump vaccine”. As soon as Joe wins they’re all for it. Proven purposeful manipulation of statistics, purposely lying/denying the origins, misleading the public about the (lack of) effectiveness of “masks” and forcing folks to virtue signal with these abominations, isolating and mischaracterizing anyone that questions their pseudo science. The US federal govt has lost almost all credibility, trust and any confidence we had left in it. I’m not sure what purpose it even serves any longer? It serves only itself.
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Dad and his wife both became very sick about 3 weeks ago, Dad first. Two tests negative for Covid, then she became ill, after about 8 days they got her to a hospital, positive for covid, too late for the ivermectin, covid pnemonia, IV-antibiotics, oxygen, came close to being on a ventilator........... Shortly after SHE tested positive, Dad was prescribed Ivermectin and doxycyclo-something, he had minor symptoms, he tested positive for covid, and seems to be doing OK, here he is still 'HOT' with the covid, 2 weeks shy of 93 . SHE is still in the bed, in hospital, day 8, doing much better........... Neither vaxxed..... I hope your mom pulls through to make a complete recovery, and I am happy your father kicked its butt.
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getting, or not getting the 'rona seems to be a crap shoot. I am not convinced that going along with the official narrative is any better than just ignoring the narrative. Don't forget, the folks telling you that you have to get vaccinated are the same folks that have lied to us about the 'rona from day one. When it takes censorship, threats, force and going medieval on the law to force people to comply, it's probably not the best for us. Going one step further, those same people (Congress) are exempt from the mandate.
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Yeah, that's a bit to Q for me, but let's roll with it. If there was a truly nefarious agenda among the doctors, why have all of them taken the vaccine?
Don't get me wrong, there is most assuredly a tangential political agenda. The left would love to wield more control over everyone, and they'd particularly love to beat the right into submission to notch a win. There are plenty of right leaning doctors who recommend the vaccine. [/quote]
My Doctor Recommended it! Pfizer!
He's been Keeping me Alive for Years!
A cousin and his wife, and Family didn't believe in it either. She got it and Died, He got it and Died, 3 of their 4 kids got it and survived!
Different Strokes! We all Have OUR Rights to do as we see fit!
I Learned a long time ago to Separate My Want's from My Needs!
A man's Gotta Do What a Man's Gotta Do!
Know Thy Self!
TRUMP DID WIN!!!
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I wonder who is this chief denier the OP is referring too? I wondered that too. He mentioned two. Ethan died and his wife is in ICU. Surely he's not low enough to use them as the topic of the thread?
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Wife recovered, has antibodies. Plenty of protection according to science. She then didn't want the jab. Kinda like "I beat the damned thing I deserve not to have to get the shot",
She was pissed because its obvious that the govt is pushing her to get something she doesn't want or need. The best proof there is that the shot is not about what's good for you or society. There's an agenda around it they're not talking about. When I talk to my family members who are doctors, my friend who are doctors and my personal doctor, and they recommend the vaccine, what's their agenda? hows he supposed to know?....they are not talking about it.......bob Yeah, that's a bit to Q for me, but let's roll with it. If there was a truly nefarious agenda among the doctors, why have all of them taken the vaccine? Don't get me wrong, there is most assuredly a tangential political agenda. The left would love to wield more control over everyone, and they'd particularly love to beat the right into submission to notch a win. There are plenty of right leaning doctors who recommend the vaccine. All of them have taken it? Maybe politicians (including Fauci) should step away from the mic and let doctors and scientists deliver a non partisan message. The fact that fauci knows he’s lost all credibility and doing more harm than good for the message now, speaks volumes. It’s all about power and politics. Fugkin sickening what we’ve allowed the politicians, from both sides, to do to this country. Everyone needs to turn off the 24hr news cycle, disconnect from politics and concentrate on their families and locales for awhile. All our problems start with the person in the mirror.
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