Read an article that said if you subtract every person drawing unemployment from the total number of available positions, there will still be a 2.9 million deficit. If the idiots running the country don’t soon figure out that social programs should be limited to those who truly can not provide for themselves, and stop incentivizing people to stay out of the labor market, who will do these jobs? The common answer is “pay more” which obviously leads to (more)inflation and ultimately means a lateral move since the purchasing power of the dollar moves laterally along with wages/inflation. With our relationship with China heading south quickly, more products will have to be sourced elsewhere or produced domestically creating an even larger gap between available jobs and workforce participants. In the trades, we lost an entire generation during the recession when young people viewed construction (rightly so) as a poor career path. The average age of a tradesman in the US is 55yo. By 2030 an estimated 79 million tradesman will retire with only an estimated 41 million young people entering the trades.
Not sure how our society moves forward with few willing to accept hard labor as a career option.
One of my sons is a reg. nurse. They've been busy, to say the least. He works in a neurological clinic but apparently their staff keeps getting borrowed. The other one heads a fraud dept. for a large auto insurance company. They can't find enough good workers and are constantly trying to hire. He says the insurance fraud during the fakedemic has skyrocketed.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
Not sure I would agree that it's a poor career path. I know a master electrician, a welder and a few plumbers with far more work than they can handle and they're raking in cash - well into 6 figures. As these professionals retire and die off and as fewer and fewer replace them, such services will cost more and more. Economics 101.
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
Schools push academics whether thats the right fit for the student or not.
Those classes earn more for the school.
Another thing, we live now in a disposable society.
Remember when men worked on stuff? Dads taught kids how to fix things.
Now its dump it and buy another.
We were told by our diesel school instructors that everyone's goal in life should be to turn wrenches for a few years and then move as quickly as you could into management.
We were confused as we were in diesel school...not business management school.
Schools push academics whether thats the right fit for the student or not.
Those classes earn more for the school.
Another thing, we live now in a disposable society.
Remember when men worked on stuff? Dads taught kids how to fix things.
Now its dump it and buy another.
Ina lot of areas, the trades are filled with ex-cons and addicts. Only place that will take them. The stigma sometimes is earned.
Even a former con can make a good living if he picks the right trade.
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For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
Schools push academics whether thats the right fit for the student or not.
Those classes earn more for the school.
Another thing, we live now in a disposable society.
Remember when men worked on stuff? Dads taught kids how to fix things.
Now its dump it and buy another.
We were told by our diesel school instructors that everyone's goal in life should be to turn wrenches for a few years and then move as quickly as you could into management.
We were confused as we were in diesel school...not business management school.
Hells yeah !!
Cousin Eddie, holdin out for a management position
Schools push academics whether thats the right fit for the student or not.
Those classes earn more for the school.
Another thing, we live now in a disposable society.
Remember when men worked on stuff? Dads taught kids how to fix things.
Now its dump it and buy another.
Ina lot of areas, the trades are filled with ex-cons and addicts. Only place that will take them. The stigma sometimes is earned.
I started into construction in the early 90's , Dockside Gaming/Casinos were voted in in 1990 Mississippi Gulf Coast average number of employees per casino 1,100 x 26 casinos , 28,000+ . That was about 10K more people than the entire population of Biloxi .
Couldn't get a job in a casino unless you were crime free - so that left nothing but thieving drunks dope-heads moreless that a construction company had to choose from . As you stated a Stigma well earned , anything and everything stolen off the jobsites if I as much as turned my head . Always missing work , late 20-30 min.-2 hours etc. 2 days quit for no reason .
Read a detailed article in Builder Magazine years ago a columnist wrote predicting this very situation . In 1965 framers/plumbers/concreter's/etc. were in the top ten things graduating teens said they wanted to be . By the mid 90's those trades didn't make the 150 top list .
Open borders ? I guess - will be the answer [puke] .
Crazy what this country has come to .
Don't blame you one bit for steering your son around the schitshow called Construction .
Most employees I ever had was 7 I subbed out the vast majority of my needs in house building . Can't imagine trying to keep 25-30 construction workers [PROBLEMS] going with 7 I was daily ready to bring a gun to work and kill most of them - make the world a better place -> Fact ! lol .
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
Apparently, the plan is to import them across the Southern border and from Afghanistan.
Progressives are the most open minded, tolerant, and inclusive people on the planet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and do exactly as you're told.
"social programs should be limited to those who truly can not provide for themselves, and stop incentivizing people to stay out of the labor market"
That should be a social function, not government. You can't pick and choose who gets what from government and be fair to everyone. And as we've seen, anything government does will be grown into something larger.
Also, government employees don't understand working for a living. They really don't at all. If you've ever had a real job, your understanding of work is very different from someone who has only find to school and had a government salary. And they get mad when you point that out.
Living in a world of G17s and 700s, wishing for P7s and 202s
It's OK for guys in the trades to rake in six figures and they actually provide vital and necessary services. Still in the end the trades suck badly because at the end of the day they're still losing. Hear me out.
You can make decent money, but it's what you do with it. Tax prep and investment strategy will Trump labor and hard work every time. What I'm saying is use your trades but get up on corporate law.
It’s not even just the skilled trades, today a trucker with a clean record and some ambition can reach six figures. I know a couple that drives team, live in the truck, and make dang near a quarter million a year. Don’t own a house, a car, no expenses but a bit of food and an expensive cell phone plan. They figure five years and they will get a cushy local 9-5 job and be set for life.
In other words, in the same amount of time that their peers burned through 100K (each) in student loans to get a diploma, these two cats will have a million $ in the bank..........
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