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LOL you dumb old fugg. I had more marketable skills than you ever dreamed of. At various points in my life I was employed as a carpenter, welder, brick layer, heavy equipment operator, CATV systems electronics splicer and gunsmith. WTF have you got Mr. "firearm's instructor" Mouth ? You're the biggest bag of stinking, worthless wind on this whole site and everybody knows it but you. Dummy.

Based on a wild guess with no experience with the UI system?

First thing reporting being fired will do, is an automatic denial to contest.... Pretty much, the system is saying it's legal to mandate, no unemployment for not. He be considered not complying with a health and safety mandate. Take months, without payment to determine and a penalty for trying.

And there are still people who doubt that this is the dawn of the Beast System prophesied in Revelations.

Indeed.

Been fired a few times huh?

Talk to your Doctor. Get an antibody test. Talk to your pastor. Talk to your wife. Talk to an attorney.

Then make your decision. It's your life.

My question is: since the vaccine makers are immune from liability and your employer is requiring it to keep your job do they then have the responsibility for any adverse effects you may have?

This brings us to the Art of Extortion. Learn what motivates each individual you are dealing with.

Nurse- They don't want to lose their job right? They're low-level help, threaten to turn them in to their superiors for a perceived infraction that could cost them their job. Convince them you'll do it by BEING WILLING TO. They'll believe you. Baddabing-baddaboom, vac card and this all goes away.

Your HR manager? They want their ass covered and need to fulfill mandates from the higher ups. Give them a way to do that w/o you getting the jab. Take one for the team if you have to. Use your imagination.

Boss, every one is unique. Their fear is the loss of their money or their business, large fines from any govt agency, their wife finding out about the affair with the 20 something intern. They got fears and they got dirt. Learn to meet their need for safety and security in exchange for a secure position. Be aware time takes the sting out of blackmail, you gotta keep it fresh if it's ongoing.

Or, you could be the first guy to take up your AR and march on the capitol.

Can you build me a custom red Ryder in a McMillan game scout stock?


Budget is $135

If you're asking me, no. I just did enough HR to know how that works.

It's bottom line issue. One of my suppliers in KS last week sent out a notice extending their lead times several weeks is due to covid and a shortage of plant workers that are currently in quarantine. That doesn't take into account any added health care costs that they may also incurr, some companies do self insure a portion of their Healthcare costs. Those other health care costs you mention are likely already built into the cost of doing business while illness from covid isn't.

For me, I'd have to quit. Firing is best for protection though.

We have an ESOP program. I have almost $100,000 in it through profit shares. Fired, I get nothing. Quit I will get it, no unemployment but bigger picture....

That makes sense.

It would appear that you had trouble keeping a job, but being able to do manual labor is always a good life plan. Congrats.

LOL


mike r

I understand your dilemma and as a person that has worked for myself for the past 22 years it's easy for me to avoid what you're facing but I would offer you some encouragement. You mention not many companies around that are not on board with the mandate I wonder of that is going to change? I can't help but think if you are good at what you do you will be in demand somewhere.

This part is not aimed at you. Years ago 56 brave men signed a very important document that started this country on the path to freedom. They did so risking all they had including their lives. We should all put ourselves in their shoes and ask our selves if we would do the same for future generations. 56 risked all they had for me. Am I indebted? By all means yes!

For blackheart or anyone else...

The Unemployment Insurance system is to assist someone to be able to look for suitable employment when they've lost their job at no fault of their own. Those reasons can very between states but the overall system is federal. In spring 2020 you could literally quit a job, claim with zero evidence. that you are unemployed due to the Covid pandemic and receive full benefits, immediately. Those programs are over.

DC. Is facing a tougher fight, because, inappropriately in my and many here's opinion, the vacc mandates are being considered legit. If he were to be fired, he's going to have a battle to claim UI compensation, likely unfruitful in the end, and no payments during adjudication. If he quits, he have to prove just cause. A hard battle again. To file lawsuit against a corporation for what would be a lawful termination? Fantasy.

Get jabbed or find other suitable employment. Nothing else is relevant. Hope he has funds to bridge the gap. Who knows the details besides him. Jobs that are worth a chit come and go. Now, with a CDL B, itwouldn't be hard to find employment most places. Would it be awesome? Equitable? Worth it? Up to DC.


GFYs all around.

Anybody successfully bought a signature from a clinic nurse?
If word got out, I would expect that would be a profitable venture for the nurse.

Is a dogcatcher really that great a profession?

Hopefully this schit gets straightened out!


There are help wanted signs everywhere.....

Hawkeye I've been thinking allot about the mark of the beast lately. Your post interest me. I've been of the mindset that there is a clear distinction drawn between these mandates and the mark and that these mandates are not the mark but a trial run. I had not given any thought that they might just merge together at some point. Until today I thought this mandate thing would run it's course and be over but now I'm not sure of that. The times are getting more ripe for the anti-christ to step in and offer a solution that will make all of this look like there is a way out and he has the plan. It will pay to be vigilant!

That ESOP money is your's whether fired, laid off, or quit