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Saw this on eBay, it looks like an unauthorized use of the 1905 registered Savage Arms trade mark - ebay/itm/133870814216
From what I can find Watt Shipp was a sporting goods dealer in Salem, Oregon and sold sporting arms as well as bicycles and was in business at least before WWI.
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Savage was one of the brand names that was used for bicycles marketed by D. P. Harris company which started in the very late 1800's and teamed with Snyder Manufacturing but the only examples of Savage bicycles I could find are from the 1940's so I don't know if they made them as early as this watch fob appears to be from. I do not think they had anything to do with Savage Arms. I know there is some misinformation about Savage bicycles being made by Savage Arms, there is mention of that in the back pages of Bailey Browers book on Savage pistols. The representation of the Native American on the bicycle name plates is different than any for Savage Arms and I found it was a trademark registered to D. P. Harris Co. M. W. Savage in Minnesota also possibly sold bicycles under the Savage name.


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Yea hard to tell. Looks like from 1900-1910 time period but didn't find any direct info. (yet)
Counterfeit things have been around a long time. My guess is it is legit even if trademark infringement.


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Good find, Gene. Agree that the artist that did that used the 1905-1907 logo as their “inspiration”, though it looks like they intentionally made some changes. An attempt to avoid a lawsuit?

Wonder if it’s just a one-off? Watt-Shipp manager carries a Savage Arms catalog into their ad guy and says “I want some watch fobs for our Savage Bicycles like this picture. Do it.” grin


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I found one in a garage sale 20+ years ago, nice to find out about it.

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I have this photo of the emblem that was attached to the front of a bike in my data and have a photo of a silver plated fob somewhere...

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thats awesome Rick

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Very interesting Gene, thanks for sharing


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