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I want an AR type platform in .22 LR. What brand is considered the most reliable and accurate? Emphasis on reliable and accuracy. I’m intrigued by the HK but have not fired one. I have shot a few S&Ws and they seemed ok but I’m just looking for more feedback
I will add a can from time to time and most likely it will wear a low power variable for plinking and to use as a truck gun.
I want a good gun and not trying to skimp with a cheapie but what are considered the better 22 LR setups on AR type rifles?
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I’ve had 2 S&W 15-22’s and while they are exact trainers, they are light and the bolt slapping the plastic receivers was almost as loud with a can than without. They both were very reliable after I sent the first one in for the upgrade but neither were what I would call accurate.
If I was looking for one today, I’d look hard at Tippman.
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I wanted a metal receiver and FSB, so I picked up a barrel and BCG from CMMG, Black Dog magazines, and assembled it myself. It's not a match gun, but accurate enough, sub 1" 25 yards with bulk fodder. Haven't tried any of the good ammo. It's been 100% reliable.
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One thing to consider is that the H&K isn't really an H&K. It's made by Umarex, the parent of Walther, who also made the short-lived Colt variant. They had a weird takedown that made it very easy to damage parts.
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I have a Spikes Tactical 22lr upper that is extremely accurate and has been completely reliable. I fully recommend them!!
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I have a Spikes Tactical 22lr upper that is extremely accurate and has been completely reliable. I fully recommend them!! That sounds like a good option.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I have a Spikes Tactical 22lr upper that is extremely accurate and has been completely reliable. I fully recommend them!! That sounds like a good option. I looked on their site but did not see .22s I really want a complete rifle though
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I went with a CMMG upper.
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Have an HK416 I bought it for fun and didn’t have too high of expectations. I handled and shot a buddies SW and was not overly impressed so I wanted to go a different route.
Biggest drawback to his SW was unreliable feeding and ejection.
The HK does not have a great trigger but definitely feels a bit more solid in the hands. And I have run that thing to filthy and back and it simply will not fail.
It chews up and spits out anything I feed it
She never made it past the bedroom door, what was she aiming for...? She's gone shootin..
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Have an HK416 I bought it for fun and didn’t have too high of expectations. I handled and shot a buddies SW and was not overly impressed so I wanted to go a different route.
Biggest drawback to his SW was unreliable feeding and ejection.
The HK does not have a great trigger but definitely feels a bit more solid in the hands. And I have run that thing to filthy and back and it simply will not fail.
It chews up and spits out anything I feed it That sounds very good. I like a reliable weapon. If it's not reliable, its just about useless as far as I'm concerned. Can't you just replace the trigger with a better one? How's the accuracy buddy? A couple guys at my club have the CMMG's and they are not impressed with the accuracy at all. They will not use them for any type of competition we have at the club. This is only a sample of 2 though. Others may have better results. From what I've seen, bone stock 10-22's will outshot them. The HK sounds like a good option, if I were in the market and if it is accurate. The OP may not be as concerned about accuracy as I am, as I like to use my rifles in different types of matches.... Interesting thread that I am following...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Bsa... I don’t know that I’ve looked into a better trigger option... if I did I forgot what I came up with!
It’s been used primarily to chew thru the lower rungs of bulk ammo at swinging steel and usually in a rapid manner.
As such I can’t give you an accurate review on inherent precision. I wouldn’t expect too much from it in that regard
But I’m not kidding when I say it’s been run hard and dirty. Nary a hiccup. Same goes for a brothers rifle so sample of 2
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Bsa... I don’t know that I’ve looked into a better trigger option... if I did I forgot what I came up with!
It’s been used primarily to chew thru the lower rungs of bulk ammo at swinging steel and usually in a rapid manner.
As such I can’t give you an accurate review on inherent precision. I wouldn’t expect too much from it in that regard
But I’m not kidding when I say it’s been run hard and dirty. Nary a hiccup. Same goes for a brothers rifle so sample of 2 Thanks cert.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I also have an H&K/Umarex 416. I agree with Certifiable. I have put about 700 rounds through it so far without cleaning, and except for one or two misfires (that both had deep firing pin strikes and were ammo-related), it has not bobbled at all. Compared to a S&W 15/22, the H&K is much closer in weight and feel to a real AR (while still being light and handy, about like a Colt SP-1). The manual of arms with the K&K is not exactly like a real AR...the bolt lock is cosmetic; not functional,(so is the forward assist) so you have to cycle the charging handle every time when loading and reloading. It has a decent trigger. Mine shoots groups of about 1 1/2" at 50 yards with a red dot, and I consider that excellent accuracy from a .22 AR. It has quickly become one of my favorite rifles.
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nordic 22lr is the standard for off the shelf.
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Idle question with no intent to dis the OP’s inquiry. Why not a 25 rd mag in a 10/22? Would seem cheaper, maybe lighter? Mine cares not about which magazine and shoots sub 1/2” at 50 yds 7 days/week. It’s still shooting fine after ~50 years.
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Idle question with no intent to dis the OP’s inquiry. Why not a 25 rd mag in a 10/22? Would seem cheaper, maybe lighter? Mine cares not about which magazine and shoots sub 1/2” at 50 yds 7 days/week. It’s still shooting fine after ~50 years. Great suggestion. You must be running an aftermarket barrel because most 10-22's don't/wont shoot "sub 1/2" at 50 yards" on a consistent basis. I know you love accuracy like I do, so you wouldn't make a blanket azzed statement as such. Trust me, I love it when guys at my club or elsewhere say their 10-22's shoot 1/2" groups all day long. Or the funny statement I hear a lot is, "a bone stock 10-22 will shoot 1/2" groups all day long"... I call guys out on that chidt. Did it 2 months ago at a rimfire shoot my club was putting on. You guessed it, the guy's 10-22 shot 1 1/2" groups "all day long" He even has a hard time hitting golf balls consistently at 50 yards, and they are 1.680" minimum...A lot of guys don't realize that a 10-22 that shoots consistent 1 moa is a prized possession. I like your idea though. Maybe the op is tired of 10-22's and their hype though?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Last edited by DigitalDan; 09/14/21.
I am..........disturbed.
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Well, it isn’t for sale. It didn’t shoot worth a crap until I bedded it. So simple a caveman did it.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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