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If you want a peak inside Justin Trudeau's government, how they do business, and the lies exposed by JWR during her time in Ottawa, it's well worth the read. You can bet that, legally speaking, more will come of SNC Lavalin.

The middle part of the book talks about her aboriginal upbringing and beliefs. It explains how she thinks, why she was an outsider and her problems with Ottawa's inner circle.

I am not an editor, but my feeling was that she did not have anyone help her with the structure of the book. The message is clear though. The takeaway is traditional governments don't work like they should.

I sincerely hope that Trudeau and certain of his cronies will answer for their transgressions.

It is available as a Kindle book.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08Y922W3R?ref=KC_GS_GB_CA


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I would never read her book.
As much as I despise Trudeau, she and her racist family run a close race for the title of despised. A self serving, agenda driven person, and just one of 18 lawyers in the Wilson family, 18 lawyers who have made it their goal in life to [bleep] everyone over for their own gain. Their legacy thus far speaks for itself, her dad Bill Wilson is a complete racist pos.

They are always whining about colonialism....too bad the King of England stood in the way of the Russians and Spaniards from murdering and enslaving them, seriously.

It would be good to see more Native People involved in the Political in Canada, but when they cannot be trusted because of their agenda, it makes it hard for others too make their own way.

How can they even begin to be effective?......
On gun control........yeah for everyone but us...
Fishing and hunting.....we get it all.
We need a new tax, everyone should pay their fair share.....pay more whitey.
On the right to roam.....ya I think that article in the charter should be amended.
On pipelines.........On our sacred ground? no way......did you say 50 billion?....ok.

Here is the best line I have ever heard...."I come from a long line of truth tellers" yeah, that is a good one.

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So, you never read the book.

You complain and whine about everything.


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I have had you on ignore for awhile now.
Why would I read her book? to be informed?

Her entire family has zero credibility, you get it now?......carry on azzhole.

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I think you are a Liberal Steve, pure and simple a fake.

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You are a whiner. You have an opinion on everything, including subjects about which you know little or nothing. Having me on ignore doesn’t seem to be working for you.

Calling people names demonstrates your ignorance. Read the book and you can comment on what was written.


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Is this better Steve?
I have full confidence JWR is telling the truth so we Canadians can see who Trudeau really is, she is so sweet.
Her family came up from the ashes of Canada's wretched treatment and worked long and hard to get 18 lawyers in the family, I admire that.

All they want is justice for all, to be treated equal. They deserve it because of the way Canada treated them.
Bill Wilson (her dad) was misunderstood when he said...we should of killed every white man who set foot in Canada.

That better now gaslighter.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
You are a whiner. You have an opinion on everything, including subjects about which you know little or nothing.

Calling people names demonstrates your ignorance. Read the book and you can comment on what was written.

I wish you were standing in front of me right now. mad

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What isn't understood by those on the fringes, is that Canada is still a small country and you can know cabinet ministers, premiers and even prime ministers . The stories from the Conservative side are equally tainted. Politics is like that.


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You are a whiner, 673. It is obvious you haven’t read the book, but you feel qualified to comment on everything.

Thanks for keeping this thread alive. laugh


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Steve, you have destroyed the Canada forum and you should be banned from it.
Having you decide what others can comment on is why you were on ignore in the first place, but if you ever get to BC and want to talk down to me in person, shoot me a pm and I will be there so you can give me a talking to.
Bring your commanding officer attitude with you, I'm sure it is better in person, rather than 2,000 miles away, you fugging coward.

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Originally Posted by downwindtracker2
What isn't understood by those on the fringes, is that Canada is still a small country and you can know cabinet ministers, premiers and even prime ministers . The stories from the Conservative side are equally tainted. Politics is like that.


What is fascinating about her account of the SNC Lavalin affair was what was said by the various Liberal players. And later, when Trudeau was found to be abusing his position to interfere with the process.



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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
You are a whiner, 673. It is obvious you haven’t read the book, but you feel qualified to comment on everything.

Thanks for keeping this thread alive. laugh



Kind of an arrogant attitude? It’s obvious 673 is from BC,the family in question is from BC so maybe he knows some things you don’t know?? But since you read the book that makes you the expert now..


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Not so. The book is not about BC.

Most of the book is about JWR’s time as a politician in Ottawa. As an MP, and as MoJ. It is about the prime minister’s attempts to have JWR (the MoJ) interfere in a legal matter that concerned a Quebec firm - SNC-Lavalin. A matter about which Canada’s ethics commissioner found our PM guilty. It is about Trudeau sending his staff to pressure the MoJ to interfere with a judge. Conversations, meetings and a recorded phone call.

It has nothing to do with what 673 posted. He doesn’t have a clue what it’s about. He’s just being a miserable SOB.

And just so you know, I lived on the Island, in Comox, and used to visit Cape Mudge. I am very aware of who JWR’s father was, but it has little to do with the book.


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Your a Liberal troll Steve, the kind who elect Trudeau. You dont know anything about me you pos, there is a reason for that..

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Frankly, I think there is something wrong with you. You live to troll this forum.

I thought you had me on ignore? laugh


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Ignore isn't enough for you, you can have the Canada forum to yourself Steve, I give up.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Not so. The book is not about BC.

Most of the book is about JWR’s time as a politician in Ottawa. As an MP, and as MoJ. It is about the prime minister’s attempts to have JWR (the MoJ) interfere in a legal matter that concerned a Quebec firm - SNC-Lavalin. A matter about which Canada’s ethics commissioner found our PM guilty. It is about Trudeau sending his staff to pressure the MoJ to interfere with a judge. Conversations, meetings and a recorded phone call.

It has nothing to do with what 673 posted. He doesn’t have a clue what it’s about. He’s just being a miserable SOB.

And just so you know, I lived on the Island, in Comox, and used to visit Cape Mudge. I am very aware of who JWR’s father was, but it has little to do with the book.


The lady who wrote it is from B.C so maybe they know something about the family you don’t. But that went over your head.. I will neve read it because it doesn’t concern me, on what happens in Canadian politics.

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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It wasn’t about her family. None of her family was involved in the book. I have already posted what the book is about.

Hopefully, after the election, the RCMP and the lawyers will get serious about prosecuting Trudeau and a few of his staff.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
It wasn’t about her family. None of her family was involved in the book. I have already posted what the book is about.

Hopefully, after the election, the RCMP and the lawyers will get serious about prosecuting Trudeau and a few of his staff.


Well hopefully for you all this book will have the same effect as the book written about John Kerry, book unfit for command.


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Ignore isn't enough for you, you can have the Canada forum to yourself Steve, I give up.


Be well 673, These are difficult times.

I appreciate Steve’s efforts , he means no harm, and keeps us focussed on the real enemy is within our far flung country.
JWR was man handled by JT and his PMO handlers over SNC Lavalin. Probably just the tip of the iceberg.
This needs to be investigated and prosecuted. The ethics commissioner was just the first step.

Remember the Liberal gun prohibition and proposed handgun bans when you vote.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Not so. The book is not about BC.

Most of the book is about JWR’s time as a politician in Ottawa. As an MP, and as MoJ. It is about the prime minister’s attempts to have JWR (the MoJ) interfere in a legal matter that concerned a Quebec firm - SNC-Lavalin. A matter about which Canada’s ethics commissioner found our PM guilty. It is about Trudeau sending his staff to pressure the MoJ to interfere with a judge. Conversations, meetings and a recorded phone call.

It has nothing to do with what 673 posted. He doesn’t have a clue what it’s about. He’s just being a miserable SOB.

And just so you know, I lived on the Island, in Comox, and used to visit Cape Mudge. I am very aware of who JWR’s father was, but it has little to do with the book.


Your knoweledge of indigenous Canadian culture is about equal to your knowledge of virology.

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338Rules,

The truth will come out. Much depends on how hard the RCMP can press and if David Lametti lets them do their job.


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Not much is said about Bill Blair and his value to the Liberal Cabinet. He spent 39 years as a cop, and was Toronto's chief of police for his last 10. Blair started his career walking a beat. Over the years, he worked undercover, in drug enforcement and investigated organized crime. His dad was a cop and his grandfather was a firefighter. He had regular dealings with the RCMP and the Ontario Provincial Police. He's connected, has a history, and is well liked by his constituents. Unless he makes a big mistake, he will only leave office feet first.

What was it about Bill Blair that got the Liberals attention? It wasn't his looks. And most liberal minded people don't like cops. His draw was where he lived and worked - in vote rich Ontario.

Blair knows how the police run. He was in charge of a department with a one billion dollar a year operating budget. But that really wasn't what makes him appealing to Liberal insiders. He knows the city. Of the 338 federal ridings in Canada, 121 are in Ontario. That's over a third of the total number of seats in the country. Just in Toronto and the GTA, there are 57 ridings - 17% of total number in a tiny area of approximately 7100 sq. km. If you factor in the ridings immediately outside the GTA, it's over 100. That's a lot of seats! And it's obvious that politicians from every party are interested in controlling that real estate.

Blair knows where the rich and the poor live. He knows where the immigrants hang out, work and vote. He knows where the crimes occur. As a cop, he dealt with all of this daily. Because the area is so vote rich, and his insider knowledge is vast, he's the local expert. Blair helps get those votes. He's 67, so he could be around for a while.

Working in Toronto as a cop doesn't necessarily make a person anti-gun, but Blair is. His biggest liability as a politician is that he only knows Toronto. He doesn't understand anything outside of the place where he was born. He doesn't understand the rest of Ontario, much less the other provinces and territories. That kind of narrow focus makes him dangerous to anyone living outside of the GTA.

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SR : Thanks for that background on BillB. It fills in some blanks in my understanding of him.

are his policies actually popular within the GTA ? I can see where the uninformed might latch onto them.

As a Westerner, I can’t stomach the lies and misrepresentations he relies on. Just fear mongering.
It seems to me that he is actually promoting the illegal gun trade. Does he benefit from that in some way ?

Surely with all his experience he can come up with sound gun control policies , that are actually viable.


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I think his beliefs are popular in Toronto. I believe living in a big city scares some people. The news they watch every night helps to program an anti-gun response. They are constantly told by their leaders that eliminating guns will make their lives safer.

Scared people will accept any solution to feel better. Even wrong ones.

I can’t see him benefiting from that fear or any anti-gun legislation. He’s lived with the uglier side of humanity, in a big city, all his life. He doesn’t see any other solution. He is unwilling to talk with others to find a way forward.


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I understand Bill Blair perspective now,Steve. When I was 21, half a century ago, I drove cab for 6 months in Burnaby. Burnaby borders Vancouver. I much preferred working day shift with it's short haul of grannies and groceries than the night shift and it's drunks. I called the night shift hauling garbage

on another note, it looks like the Liberals will retain her seat by the skin of their teeth


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I think his beliefs are popular in Toronto. I believe living in a big city scares some people. The news they watch every night helps to program an anti-gun response. They are constantly told by their leaders that eliminating guns will make their lives safer.

Scared people will accept any solution to feel better. Even wrong ones.

I can’t see him benefiting from that fear or any anti-gun legislation. He’s lived with the uglier side of humanity, in a big city, all his life. He doesn’t see any other solution. He is unwilling to talk with others to find a way forward.


Seems very Un-Liberal of him.

Prohibition justified by manipulation of Fear !

They could be much more productive by policing the illegal street gun trade,
instead of squandering public resources harassing legitimate law abiding gun owners.

The municipal grants for imposing Hand Gun bans, is just a end run boon doggie which will be abused by the politicos with their snouts in the trough, Ha

Fund and promote construction of safe shooting ranges. I’d vote for that !


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You would think that after living in TO for a lifetime, and being a cop, he has seen the reports of what guns are being used, and where they are coming from. I think it's irresponsible of him to jump on the gun ban bandwagon, but hey, look at the money making opportunities! A fine pension for being police chief and another good one from the federal government.


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Simple fact is gov't is not interested in saving lives or reducing crime with their anti gun, public safety charade. It is about disarming the public. The gov't has no intention of doing anything about gun related crime. In fact it would be to their advantage for gun crime to escalate thus falsely justifying more anti gun legislation. Gov't is taking advantage of public ignorance in the matter and creating irrational fear. The reason they are doing/allowing this is because the gov't is not scared of criminals and their illegal guns but rather they are scared of an overall armed public in the event of revolution where the people could take up arms against the gov't. Gov't would really like to be rid of general gun ownership before implementing some of the global, socialist/communist agenda that is coming down the pipe.

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Bushrat, these conspiracy theories presuppose that they are intelligent. They are Not, they are just good salesmen. Most of them are as dumb as posts.


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It's about power and control, which the Liberals almost lost in this election... So.... anything goes for holding onto power; telling lies and fear mongering! The best place for that is Toronto where the majority know little to nothing about how the rest of Canadians live! I'm from Eastern Canada (New Brunswick) and a small fishing community but have lived in Montreal, Hamilton, Halifax and Toronto where any thoughts of enjoying "nature" is in a luxurious waterfront "cabin" outside "The Big City"! There may be the occasional skunk, coon or coyote roaming nearby, but what's that? They already have that in "The Big City" where wildllife is "protected" by political "experts" who know best! So Trudeau and company were raised in such a culture, and know little to nothing of how the majority of Canadians live... and they think a ban on guns will inspire a majority to thank them... including Bill Blair!

Just ponder this for 2 seconds... 31% of Canadians WHO VOTED "chose Trudeau" (according to our Liberal media) to rule ALL Canadians again! According to the Liberal media: CBC, CTV and Global, that was a "good thing" as we can now count on a steady diet of "sameness"! But that's also the direction of the world that has rejected the true God and his Son!

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They are not dumb or stupid, they are conniving con men who bank on the publics gullibility to think they are benevolent but misguided. This type of thing is right out of the social engineering 101 play book. Bill Blair and his ilk are not stupid and people need to open their eyes and pay attention to what is going on. They are orchestrating this very badly written nefarious legislation into fruition right in front of our very eyes...I wouldn't call them the stupid ones.....

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Frankly, I think there is something wrong with you. You live to troll this forum.

I thought you had me on ignore? laugh



Every time I wander over here to take a look at what you lot are yacking about it is always you stirring the pot and doing the passive aggressive
thing, pointing the finger at others.

Let's face it, you are a turd.


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Then don’t come over. laugh

We’ll be going to the polls again in another 18 months according to O’Toole. We will probably elect a Conservative government. And it won’t be because Canadians will want a Conservative govt, but because they will vote Trudeau out.


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Frankly, I think there is something wrong with you. You live to troll this forum.
I thought you had me on ignore? laugh

Every time I wander over here to take a look at what you lot are yacking about it is always you stirring the pot and doing the passive aggressive
thing, pointing the finger at others.
Let's face it, you are a turd.
Cockwomble is the word that comes to mind. I call him Snidely Whiplash.


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Bushrat, these conspiracy theories presuppose that they are intelligent. They are Not, they are just good salesmen. Most of them are as dumb as posts.


I think too, most people live in cities and believe that they should be in total control of what we do. A lot of people think driving 10 miles out of town is going into the boonies, and living off the land. There are no McDonalds or malls around.

Most politicians grew up in those cities and they know best, right?


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SNC-Lavalin investigation update: The RCMP continue the investigation into fraud and forgery. The charges concern bribes that were allegedly paid in exchange for SNC-Lavalin obtaining contracts.

I doubt that Trudeau was directly involved in any of this. Hopefully, the RCMP will continue the investigation and find the government players who were involved with the SNC-Lavalin company

Update: SNC-Lavalin corporations and two former senior executives facing fraud and forgery related charges
September 23, 2021
Ottawa, Ontario

News release

Two Quebec men have been arrested and a number of charges laid, including fraud against the government, fraud, forgery and conspiracy, in connection with a lengthy and comprehensive criminal investigation by the National Division RCMP Sensitive and International Investigations section.

Project Agrafe focussed on investigating allegations of criminal wrongdoing involving Quebec-based corporations SNC-Lavalin Inc. and SNC-Lavalin International Inc., related to bribes that were paid in exchange for obtaining a contract.

On September 23, 2021, two Montreal-area men were arrested in connection with the investigation. Normand Morin is a former vice-president of SNC-Lavalin, and Kamal Francis a former vice-president at SNC-Lavalin International Inc.

They, along with the corporate entities of SNC-Lavalin Inc. and SNC-Lavalin International Inc., have each been charged with the following offences under the Criminal Code of Canada:

Forgery (366 C.C.)
Conspiracy to commit forgery (465/366 C.C.)
Fraud (380 C.C.)
Conspiracy to commit fraud (465/380 C.C.)
Fraud against the government (121 C.C.)
Conspiracy to commit fraud against the government (465/121 C.C.)

"This was a lengthy and highly complex investigation, and I'm proud of the consistent and professional work of our team," says Inspector Denis Beaudoin of the National Division RCMP Sensitive and International Investigations section. "As a result of their continued dedication, evidence was identified and gathered over a number of years, which has ultimately resulted in the charges announced today."

National Division Sensitive and International Investigations is mandated to investigate criminal activity that poses a threat to Canada's government institutions, public officials, the integrity of the Crown, or that imperils Canada's political, economic and social integrity.

"We remain committed to disrupting, deterring and preventing both domestic and foreign corruption, and aim to bring individuals and companies involved in these types of crimes to justice, regardless of when they were committed," adds Insp. Beaudoin.

Normand Morin and Kamal Francis were released from custody and are scheduled to appear in a Montreal court on September 27, along with representatives for SNC Lavalin Inc. and SNC Lavalin International Inc.

https://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/en/news/...cutives-facing-fraud-and-forgery-related


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